I think the speculation is that the computer is just seeing "you're not
stepping on the brake" so it doesn't unlock the gear selector.

It's not seeing a problem per se. It can't distinguish a failed switch
from "not stepping on the brake" so there is no code.

Allan

Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> writes:

> So, are you saying this iCarsoft tool can see things the expensive scan 
> tools cannot?
>
> RB
>
>
> On 14/01/2021 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is 
>> missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might 
>> not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it)
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>>> BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they 
>>> looked for codes and did not find anything?
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>> On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down 
>>>> in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and 
>>>> maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is 
>>>> thinking.  It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not 
>>>> really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating.
>>>>
>>>> Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer 
>>>> cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with 
>>>> this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows 
>>>> nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. 
>>>> You will thank me, you're welcome.
>>>>
>>>> --FT
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake 
>>>>> light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly 
>>>>> later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be 
>>>>> flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive 
>>>>> job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having 
>>>>> to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger 
>>>>> folks isn’t easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while 
>>>>> watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam.
>>>>>
>>>>> -D
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to see you Wilton!
>>>>>> Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There 
>>>>>> should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, 
>>>>>> the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer 
>>>>>> for my car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM
>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com
>>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 
>>>>>> Bluetec out
>>>>>> of PARK..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Car not parked on slope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, 
>>>>>> working shift
>>>>>> lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         Wilton
>>>>>> _______________________________________ 

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