I bought one of those 2KW inverter units from Harbor Freight a few years back:
https://www.harborfreight.com/engines-generators/gasoline-generators/2000-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-62523.html I got it on sale for $450. It's fairly quiet and it has a low power mode that is even quieter. It has started reliably so far. It is portable but I would not like to carry it far. You need to remove a side panel (tools required) to check or change oil. Some of the other maintenance is odd, like a spark plug buried deep inside. Overall, it has served me well but I don't have many hours on it. -----Original Message----- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Curt Raymond via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <[email protected]> Cc: Curt Raymond <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Heat pump question I've got a 1200w 2 stroke generator that has never been used "in anger". It outputs 12v also which can be handy.It would be super useful for you now as it would easily run your blower and just sip fuel. Its supposed to run 8 hours at half load on 1 gallon of gas. A Honda 2000w would be better but also would be 5x the cost and considering I've never really needed mine I can't justify it.I have considered the Harbor Freight copy to have at camp. When we were up there last July it was stiflingly hot. Dad wants to get a small air conditioner but the 3000w "Champion" generator we have now is quite loud.Google suggests that a 5000BTU aircon needs 550w/hr so the small "super quiet" generator from Harbor Freight would do the job easily. We've got 500 or so sqft. of camp. It wouldn't make ice cubes inside but would certainly take the edge off. -Curt On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:49:02 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <[email protected]> wrote: Nope it’s all contained in the original brick chimney. I closed the doors on it and will see what happens I really need to look into a generator or some sort. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The doors will probably make more heat, you're losing it up the chimney > because its getting too much air. > > I've got a thermometer on the stove pipe and I'm always interested in the > fact that maximum heat is NOT achieved with maximum air. You've got to run a > lot of air to get the fire going and to get the stove/chimney warm but then > you need to restrict air some to get max heat. I don't completely understand > why but its a fact, at least in my stove. Some of the heat has to go into the > chimney, otherwise you won't be able to maintain good draft. Outside chimneys > might look cool but they suck for actually burning wood. > > Do you have a pipe coming out of yours you can put a magnetic stove > thermometer on? Without one you'll produce less heat and burn way more wood > since you don't really know whats happening. > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 11:36:05 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Got the fire going. Of course it will take a while to start putting off some > heat. Without the doors closed and the blower going, it seems like it’s > probably operating like a regular fireplace with most of the heat going ok > the chimney. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Some of those units do pretty amazing things in the cold these days. 10-15 > > years ago 20F was the practical minimum but I've read of units that will > > still work down to 0F and there are some that probably go colder. I suspect > > efficiency takes a dump at those temps though. > > > > The guy I'm training to run the groomer is an HVAC installer and the other > > night he was telling me that just about nobody is installing ground source > > heat pumps any more due to the huge cost and the availability of low temp > > air source units combined with the low cost of natural gas. > > > > I'd considered ground source but the ones I've looked at are $20,000+ while > > a new boiler for our house is more like $6,000 and would decrease our oil > > use 20-25%. It would take a long long time to pay off that extra cost. > > There are incentives but they're decreasing every year. > > > > -Curt > > > > On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:46:10 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I don’t know if size matters but it’s a 5 ton unit and even when it was in > > the single digest I could tell it was putting out heat. I could tell the > > difference between when the outside unit was running and when it was shut > > down and only using the aux heat. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Feb 16, 2021, at 9:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > There's no point in it running if it can't extract any heat from the > > > air. It's a wonder it was running and putting out much when it got down > > > below 20F or so. > > > > > > --FT > > > > > >> On 2/16/21 10:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > >> Power just came back on a few minutes ago. Outside unit still not > > >> running. I did find the installation manual online though. Here is some > > >> info about the defrost and lockouts. Sounds like it may simply be > > >> locking out because the temp is too low. > > >> > > >> Heating Mode:The compressor and fan motor will stop when the low > > >> pressure control opens and will start again when the low side pressure > > >> rises to approximately 40 psig when the low pressure automatically > > >> resets�If the low pressure switch trips 3 times within 120 minutes of > > >> operation during a particular call for heating operation, the defrost > > >> control will lock out compressor and outdoor fan operation�If the lock > > >> out due to low pressure occurs at an outdoor ambient temperature below > > >> 5°F, the defrost control will automatically exit the lockout mode when > > >> the outdoor ambient temperature rises 5°F�This feature is necessary > > >> since the low pressure control could possibly have opened due to the > > >> outdoor ambient being very low rather than an actual system fault� > > >> > > >> > > >> Of course with the power being out I figure that would have caused the > > >> lockout to reset at least for a while. 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