I remember Sandy taking out this substation in lower manhattan in 2012. I
had a friend who lived near it and used to jog right by there. Dramatic.

https://youtu.be/ZAqYZ433TeQ

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:40 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here in the Lowcountry hurricanes are our big problem, winter not so
> much.  I live kinda out at the end of the road and the power lines so
> power can go out pretty quickly, a few times they have shut off power to
> keep the system from being damaged if flooded by saltwater (arcing will
> burn out the equipment but it can be washed off if just inundated).  I
> keep about 30 gal of gas in cans for the generator, plus full tanks of
> gas in the trucks and vehicles.  I can run the generator for a coupla
> hours every 4-6hr and the fridge will stay cold, I have propane cooktop
> (with grill but the fan won't run) and gas grill (with one burner)
> outside too if I need to grill something.  It can get kinda warm in the
> house but a fan will be OK and I actually don't mind the heat too much.
> I buy dry and canned stuff on sale at the grocery so keep the pantry
> pretty full of that kind of stuff, and my neighbor is a farm stand so
> fresh veggies are generally available, guy down the road raises lots of
> chickens and sells eggs.  I guess I could go for quite some time, coupla
> weeks at least, probably longer.  Hell might even lose some weight!  If
> worse goes to worst a fishing pole and kayak would keep me in fish so
> there's that too. If it happens in the winter I have some firewood
> stacked and the fireplace will throw some heat, but it doesn't really
> get that cold or stay cold for long here so that is a benefit.
>
> The cold is much more difficult to deal with, and unpleasant.  I have
> friends in Houston who were without power for 2 weeks back a few years
> ago after a hurricane, it got pretty miserable there after a few days
> but at least they were warm. Tried to call a buddy there yesterday but
> no answer, will check on him again today see how they are faring in the
> cold.
>
> I guess you just get into the mentality after awhile of thinking about
> what can happen, and experiencing it.  Longest here without electrons
> was 4 days after a hurricane, it got kinda monotonous but was
> tolerable.  I recall my grandparents when I was young, they would talk
> about growing up with a wood cook stove and "coal oil" lamps and pumping
> water from the well (which they did into the 60s before my parents built
> them a new house).  My parents even lived that way when they were
> younger, growing up on the farm, it was just how it was.  They were farm
> folk, and poor (in money) and everyone around them was the same, so that
> was the norm, family and neighbors helped one another and took pride in
> that.  Add in the Depression, they were pretty tough.  So for them it
> was just bidness as usual, they didn't think much of losing power, and
> were quite adaptable to situations.  I learned a lot from them in that
> regard.
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/18/21 9:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > In 1998 I was living with my folks during an ice storm. They had a
> propane cooktop and oven but the oven wouldn't work because the thermostat
> needs electricity. A coal stove provided heat and we had flashlights and
> candles for lights. When I got my own place I always aimed for that level
> of preparedness or better. In 2008 we had an ice storm and came through
> well with a Coleman stove, some flashlights and the battery out of the lawn
> tractor with my 400w power inverter.
> > These days we're good for at least 2 weeks, meaning I don't need to
> leave the property for 2 full weeks at least. Probably we'd be fine for
> more like a month although at that point our diet would be getting pretty
> monotonous. Heck I'm pretty sure we could go a full week eating nothing but
> wild foods. We've got, I think 5 ducks, 1 partridge, 3 pheasants and 10 or
> more pounds of venison sausage. I don't know how much venison backstrap
> we've got left, oh and theres some venison and some moose stew meat...
> > Got about 7 gallons of gasoline without having to pull any out of
> snowmobiles or the truck, 5 gallons of kerosene (and a couple kerosene
> stoves, lamps and lanterns to use it in) and around 3 gallons of Coleman
> fuel. Gasoline could fill in for Coleman fuel in a pinch. About 4 cords of
> wood left, buddy Ben got an unexpected order for firewood this week so I
> may go help him run some Saturday and get paid with a truckload.
> >
> > -CurtEagle Scout - "Be Prepared"
> >
> >
> >
> >      On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 10:58:01 PM EST, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >   All of that said, there's a component of unreadiness by the individual
> > citizens as well. We're always told to have blankets, water, food,
> > etc. for emergencies. Most people don't. I'm as guilty as anyone for not
> > thinking about this very often. I could survive a week at home without
> > power, I have blankets, warm clothes, enough canned and dry food, and a
> > camping stove, but that's more by happenstance than because of any
> > deliberate planning.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> >
> >
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