Not aware of any new (2021) Mercedes diesels for sale in the US. On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 4:48 PM OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> You have to look at the total energy cycle - all of it used to manufacture > those wind generators, solar panels, nuclear plants (probably the best > option, if thorium based), the batteries, all those silicon chipsand the > rest of the car. > In the best case you will break even, but the last study I saw a few years > ago came to the conclusion that the least environmentally damaging mode of > personal transportation was a new Mercedes Diesel. > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Not if generated from wind, solar, nuclear or geothermal power. > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 12:22 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > But more emissions at the power plant. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > But zero emissions while driving. > > > > > > > >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 11:54 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> YES > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 10:45 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Exactly. Not to mention the mining of the materials for the > batteries > > > and > > > >>> disposal of the batteries. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Sep 13, 2021, at 9:20 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > > > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Keeping your '83 240D on the road for nearly 40 years as an > > > >> alternative > > > >>> to the environmental impact of producing the 6 or 8 (or more) cars > > most > > > >>> people would own in that span of time is probably more "green" that > > > >> driving > > > >>> a new EV. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >>>>> One time I was headed to the airport in Boston and running a > little > > > >>> late. The first row of parking spaces at BOS were "Green vehicle > > > >> parking". > > > >>> I'm sure they meant "electric vehicle parking" but I was in a > hurry. > > I > > > >> took > > > >>> a scrap of paper, scribbled "Bio" and stuck it on the "diesel" > badge > > on > > > >> my > > > >>> '83 240D. > > > >>>>> When I got back parking enforcement had left a nice note "Very > > funny, > > > >>> don't try it again." > > > >>>>> -Curt > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021, 04:03:49 PM EDT, Andrew > Strasfogel > > > >>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down > > > >>> beneath > > > >>>>> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric > vehicle > > > and > > > >>> get > > > >>>>> $25,000 for it. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > > > >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> All the government stimmy bux are gone.... > > > >>>>>> We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon > > (six > > > >>>>>> months or less). If you've got cars, houses, ____ (fill in the > > > blank) > > > >>> to > > > >>>>>> sell, now is the time. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Rick > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM > > > >>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net > > > >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly > decent > > > >> 123 > > > >>>>>> turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a > > while. > > > >> In > > > >>> the > > > >>>>>> last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and > > sell > > > >>> quickly. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________ > > > >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> _______________________________________ > > > >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________ > > > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________ > > > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________ > > > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>>> > > > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>>> > > > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________ > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>> > > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>> > > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________ > > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >> > > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >> > > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com