What the shop I went to did was put the wheel on their balancer, spin it
and hold a piece of marking chalk at the tread... The bulge marked itself
very nicely, and the balancer clearly showed the extreme out of balance.
Instantly it was very convincing. I left the marks when I took the tire set
back to Big O... and got stonewalled. Which reminds me.. it's time to jab
another needle in the Big O voodoo doll... :))

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 6:51 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There’s a small repair shop here on the Island I’ll take it to after I do
> a front/back swap, they do tires,, owner is nice and seems to know his
> stuff. Maybe they can throw it on the balancer or something and see if they
> can figure out whussup.
>
> —FT
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 2, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I avoid all the chain tire shops. Have always used local guys that are
> working out of a warehouse with a tire machine, balancer, and some floor
> jacks.
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 10:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Take it to a decent tire shop and have them look it over.  If you have
> >> tread separation and you describe classic symptoms of exactly that, it
> is a
> >> very dangerous thing that can and will cause loss of control and a
> serious
> >> wreck. Do not mess around with it..
> >> If the tread comes off the tire it will also beat the living hell out of
> >> the fender before you get to a stop, even if it doesn't wreck you.
> >> I recently lost a front tire on the Ford King Cab F350, 9,000 lb truck
> >> empty, due to tread separation, same symptoms you describe. The day
> before,
> >> I had it on the freeway running 75 and it felt "not right"... so I went
> to
> >> the far right lane and slowed down.... at 50 the not right feel went
> >> away... I kept the speed down on the return trip [about 60 miles] and
> the
> >> next day used the truck again.. At that time, I hit a bump and the front
> >> started an oscillation that was truly frightening. I hit the brakes and
> >> pulled the speed down to 20 before the front stopped driving itself.  I
> got
> >> the message.... milked it to the closest tire shop and at that point, I
> >> could see a tread bubble about 2 ft long... [Big O tires.... 12,000
> miles
> >> since new, a dual truck, so 6 tires cost $2,200 when new]  Put a set of
> >> Michelin  replacement tires on at the handy shop, and love them. Big O
> >> refused to warranty their tire set that failed... no refund.. I ate it..
> >> ouch. They are forever on my "never do business with them again."
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 5:18 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I found an article that had the name of the company called Turbo Tires
> or
> >>> some such that sells these lizetti tires. A link to some business
> website
> >>> had their phone number so I rang up the company and talked to a nice
> guy
> >>> there. He said they had not imported these tires for 7 years and there
> >>> weren’t many out there. Weird as these tires looked pretty new. I need
> to
> >>> check the date codes on the tires.
> >>>
> >>> They now sell some tires made in Thailand called lexani. Cheep but he
> said
> >>> they were good. Whatever. Walmart seems to be their main outlet.
> That’s
> >>> probably where these tires came from.
> >>>
> >>> I’ll have to work on this tire, probably have to get another one.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yup, sounds like a bad belt. I would swap it to the rear and see if
> the
> >>> noise/vibration follows. I’m guessing it will.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I recall, the MLs use a weird tire size that’s not terribly common.
> >>>>
> >>>> -D
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The LF tire on the ML500 started acting weird at 25mph+\- , kinda
> >>> bouncing around, but then it smoothes out at higher speeds. At first I
> >>> thought something in the steering or suspension was loose causing
> this. I
> >>> jacked it up the other day and there was no play in the steering, all
> the
> >>> suspension bits looked tight and fine.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> today I was driving with the window down and it seems like a flapping
> >>> sound as the tire rotates at that speed. Got me thinking maybe a belt
> is
> >>> separating?  I’ve never had that happen so not sure of the symptoms.
> F  Rt
> >>> I’m what I can tell it looks ok. I was thinking to swap it front to
> back
> >>> and see if the behavior follows the tire. Or take it off and take it
> to a
> >>> tire shop to see if they can figure it out, maybe it shed a weight or
> >>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The tires are “Lizetti” and were on the vehicle when I “acquired” it
> >>> and looked to be nearly new. Not a lot of miles in them. It’s weird I
> have
> >>> done a search for the tire in the size 255/65R17 and none appear to be
> >>> available anywhere though a few other sizes are sold by different
> vendors.
> >>> They seem to have ok reviews for a cheaper tire but I had never heard
> of
> >>> them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --FT
> >>>>> Sent from iFōn
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