I believe the bottom line is YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.
If you pay for cheap Chinese crap, you get cheap crap someone was paid $0.10
an hour to make.
If you pay for cheaply produced factory meats (using the Tyson example...I'm
sure there are many), you get the cheap-labor-squashing-the-little-guy-Wal
Mart-is-the-devil kind of stuff.
On the other hand...
if you pay for quality made stuff, you get quailty made stuff someone was
paid a fair wage to prouduce.
If you buy what you know to be organic stuff, you are supporting someone who
is making an honest living...someone who is probably fighting a losing
battle against big business.
We have the choice to propagate what we wish. It may not always be easy, but
doing the right thing usually isn't.
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 154K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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From: "redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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The cost of not cleaning house is going to far outweigh any blessing of
cheap consumer goods. Round them up, toss them up against a wall and
use them for target practice. Then we can process them, use the stuff
for fuel and fertilizer. When word of that makes it south, there will
be fewer headed this way for a chance to enrich the US consumer.
On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, at 02:18 PM, Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote:
The food costs are definitely subsidized by the cheap illegal labour.
It
used to be ,here in Arkansas, farm families would survive on the extra
income that they could make working in the chicken plants ( since they
can't make enough to live on actually GROWING food or RAISING the
chickens and those folks work HARD for what little they get ) then a
few
years back, Tyson started advertising in Mexico that they had jobs for
people coming this way ( for substantially less then he was paying the
locals ) and next thing you know Springdale looks like downtown
Tiajauna and the farm families have nowhere to turn for income (
especially since the few manufacturing options are steadily moving to
China )
Then to top it off, a bunch of years back Tyson started a deal to
supposedly help family farms put up more chicken houses to boost
production since it's hard to get financing for small farms ( I almost
signed on the line for this one...good thing my BS detector was tuned
in
), so he'd finance the chicken houses and get the farmer to put up his
house land against it as his part. Well not too far down the line after
a clean out they would magically not get any new chicks for longer and
longer periods of time until they would default, loose their house ,
and
magically a few families of mexicans would be moved in to work the
operation for wages ( small wages )
There are already plenty of people here to do everything, just not for
nothing.
as far as food prices, the cost of organic foods are basically what
food
should really cost if everyone involved were making a living wage.
---------Robert
redghost wrote:
Maybe all this cheap stuff is not really in our best interest. it is
nice to be able to accumulate all sorts of garbage nobody really
needs,
but when you have something you really want, do you go out and get the
least expensive version, or do you spend what it takes to get the
right
item?
I am sure that Gary does not quibble about his ammo, since the cheap
stuff will mess up his guns. Or Rusty is going for least cost care
for
his father. And who among us is looking for the cheap chinese parts
for our benz. These are all health and safety issues. Might be that
having all this cheap illegal labor is the same health and safety
discussion.
The illegals are not above breaking the law to succeed. Dealing
drugs,
smuggling lord knows what, taking the place of native born or real
citizens in the schools and hospitals. Stealing identities and social
security numbers is not in the interest of most real Americans.
Could be that all the cheap fast food really is not good for us. The
plastic tomatoes and lettuce in that burger are really tasty, NOT!
And
if we paid the real cost to procure the foods we ate, I think we would
be more discerning in what we tossed down our gullets.
If we see that importing labor is costing our local economy more than
it provides, we may see the real cost to the community. Walmart comes
in and sells us chinese junk, undercutting the local merchants and
those Main Street businesses fail, taking the other merchants, and in
the end the town.
On Monday, May 29, 2006, at 04:39 PM, OK Don wrote:
The "illegals" are only coming North because of the demand for their
labor. We need them - your cheap food supply is one example. The
proper response is not to ship them home, then demand that they
comply
with regulations and bureaucracy meant to limit their ability to come
North, it's to change the laws, regulations, and bureaucracy to make
it easy for them to enter. Those that are here should be
grandfathered
in.
They are breaking the law because the law is in neither their nor our
interests. Don't punish them for our stupidity, reward them for
taking
the risk on both of our behalf's.
On 5/29/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You don't get it. It's not the cost of transporting them to Mexico
that's the problem. It's the cost of tracking down and rounding up
12
million people. Even if there was the political will to do it the
cost
would be astronomical. And there isn't the political will; too many
business interests are arrayed against it. Think of the costs
associated with illegal immigration as yet another way the
government
subsidizes our cheap food supply.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
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Seattle Bioburner
1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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