There are plenty of older non DEF trucks running around here in NC. If the 
situation changes, and only new trucks get to operate on  the roads, there will 
be even more shortages, and a huge amount of truckers will be forced to go out 
of business or raise prices even higher to afford to buy expensive, new trucks.
Kevin in Lexington, NC 

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> On Mar 8, 2022, at 11:05 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> All trucks in California, [and now everywhere] for example, are required to
> pass EPA rules, which means only new production trucks are allowed to be
> licensed. All those use DEF, made from Urea, which is now shut off from
> export from Russia.. If a new DEF truck runs out of DEF Fluid, the magic
> nannie electricals will shut off the truck making it an 80,000 lb brick
> that does not deliver goods to market.
> "For want of a nail, a shoe was lost. For want of a shoe a horse was lost.
> For want of a horse a Knight was lost. For want of a Knight a battle was
> lost. For want of a battle a Kingdom was lost.
> For want of a Kingdom a people were lost."  Thus the phrase "You've been
> nailed".
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> EPA are considering imposing more stringent emissions standards on trucks
>> so that should help
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 10:42 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Global problem. We now need russian oil to run american tractors with
>> parts
>>> made in china and we need russian fertilizer and urea [for DEF for the
>>> tractors and trucks]. Thus, USA farmers don't farm as many acres and it
>>> costs far more per production bushel. Then, we need fuel and fertilizer
>>> [and EPA dictated DEF made from urea] to run the trucks to take the wheat
>>> to market. All which cost more, and there is not enough of.
>>> The opportunities for leaders across the globe to make poor decisions is
>>> manifold in the near term.
>>> Being very careful to avoid any political inference, we in USA are
>> setting
>>> on huge energy reserves, natural gas reserves, and labor reserves. The
>> real
>>> shortage appears to be the hard logic reserve required to make best use
>> of
>>> those raw materials to take them to best use and feed ourselves.
>>> Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between genius and
>>> ignorance?"
>>> Dr. Einstein: "There is no shortage of ignorance."
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 8:24 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> People (especially people on Facebook, why do I go on Facebook?) don't
>>>> seem to understand globally traded commodities and the idea that the
>> price
>>>> of oil in the US is directly affected by the price of oil in Europe.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't bet that we import much Russian wheat but if Europe stops
>>>> importing Russian wheat they'll need American wheat to make up for it...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 12:50:20 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from
>>>> Russia
>>>>> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian
>> oil?
>>>>> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
>>>>> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
>>>>> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> OK Don
>>>> 
>>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>>> 
>>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>>> Wernher
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>>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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