Whats the total torque, like 300ft/lbs? So the Ford was less than 10% more powerful. I wonder what mileage penalty is for that power. -Curt Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 22:12:58 -0700 From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] cummins, frod, GM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 09:59:39PM -0500, Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: > The fords are definitely the sturdiest and most comfortable over the > long haul ( I love my old'90 crew cab ) but the international engines > leave a few things to be desired. It is worthwhile noting that the non turbo 7.3 IDI engine had more torque than the cummins TURBO did in the first generation dodge diesels, by something like 20 ft-lbs. That engine and the 6.9 that preceeded it were in use by medium duty internationals, and owners of those rigs really seemed to like them. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jul 10 17:43:16 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc15.comcast.net ([204.127.192.85]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fzzmr-0002Y1-8T for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:43:15 +0000 Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[67.171.52.98]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc15) with ESMTP id <20060710174302m15004i35se>; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:43:02 +0000 Received: from [69.88.113.178] (helo=[192.168.1.105]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1Fzzmd-000HMn-Fz for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:43:00 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:42:54 -0700 From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.7 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "ringbill.gull.us", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details. Content preview: Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: > No, the chassis is the best part on the ford ( I remember quite a few > years ago, about 20, when the city of new york got a great deal on a > bunch of new ambulances from chevy and got rid of the fords...after > about 6 months they were suing GM because the suspension on their new > ambulances was not up to the rigors of NY city streets ( they were > breaking suspension pieces and cracking frames left and right ) they got > rid of them and went back to fords. [...] Content analysis details: (-4.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -3.3 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 1.2 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] cummins, frod, GM X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 17:43:17 -0000 Robert & Tara Ludwick wrote: > No, the chassis is the best part on the ford ( I remember quite a few > years ago, about 20, when the city of new york got a great deal on a > bunch of new ambulances from chevy and got rid of the fords...after > about 6 months they were suing GM because the suspension on their new > ambulances was not up to the rigors of NY city streets ( they were > breaking suspension pieces and cracking frames left and right ) they got > rid of them and went back to fords. The twin I-beam front suspension on the 1980s Ford trucks & vans was ridiculously stout. No one seemed to be able to align it well, but you couldn't break it.