MB (or DBAG) needs to make the tech open source ad let the matrix build new 
analogs. It’s basically some kind of RFID or coded RF signal. I’m not sure the 
129 key itself is actually  coded but obviously the fob has something in it. 

My buddy had some little box that could read the RF signal from a later Benz 
fob and duplicate it in another fob “blank” you can buy on Amazon or wherever 
but the issue seems to be the tech in these particular fobs although I’m not 
sure. Cars with the earlier EIS needed that unit to make a duplicate but I 
think later cars like the keyless go versions are just a RF code that can be 
copied and written. He said he could make them for me if I got the virgin 
blanks. Once flashed the fob can’t be reused. He made me a new key for the 
R500, those blanks are like $10. I found the keyless go blank for $40 or $50 
from some vendor, he said they were on eBay and Amazon too but I searched and 
it wasn’t clear what was what. 

He told me that basically if the key is close to the cloning device the key can 
be copied which has all kinds of issues with theft etc. so if he would be 
sitting next to someone who has a key in pocket or purse he could clone the key 
in just a couple minutes. Scary huh?

--FT
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> On May 8, 2024, at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> That seems even sillier. If MB can make the cars, then they can make the 
> parts including keys if they want to.
> 
> There must also be some form of work-around possible.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 08/05/2024 11:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m sure Jamie could provide background if he had time, but as I understand 
>> it, they couldn’t find a vendor who would/could make them.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On May 8, 2024, at 9:15 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is truly ridiculous. Mercedes should step up and make things like 
>>> that readily available.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>>> On 08/05/2024 11:09 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Fobs are for sure, not sure about the “Mickey Mouse” hard key with the 
>>>> RFID chips in it. Same with W140s and W163s, too.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 8, 2024, at 7:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> I think keys for R129s are pretty much unobtainium.  Plus it looks rough.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1549645479227404
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> --FT
>>> 
> 
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