Does anyone recall the nasty stuff that had graphite in it in the 80s? If you 
think diesel oil on your hands is bad, it’s nothing compared to the stuff that 
had graphite in it.

-D

> On Jun 27, 2024, at 2:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> NAPA had it last time I bought. I haven't checked lately.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, at 16:38, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> Where do you get it?
>> The ad is funny in mentioning its good for high sulfur fuel. AFAIK 
>> that's super illegal in the US...
>> 
>> I like M1 TDT because its easily available. Which is what really annoys 
>> me about the 2015 Jetta which requires oil that meets VW's spec.
>> 
>> I think I've mentioned that I had been using LiquiMoly 4100 in Angie's 
>> Golf but the price has gone up 50% to nearly $50/gallon. Last oil 
>> change I switched to Rotella T6 because it was on sale at Tractor 
>> Supply for $25/gal. The VW community says it'll meet the standard for 
>> that car although its not listed. Lots of people using it over 100,000 
>> miles.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 04:11:33 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I've been using this lately.
>> 
>> https://www.lucasoil.com/product/15w-40-magnum-high-tbn-ci-4-oil/
>> 
>> Modern diesel oils are for modern engines, not old sooty OM617s.
>> 
>> It's not great for cold starts, admittedly. But I don't like to drive 
>> my W116 in the winter anyway, trying to keep the rust from progressing 
>> any more than it already has.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jun 27, 2024, at 16:04, OK DonN via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Back when I was an MB Diesel head, in all of our OM 61x and OM60x 
>>> engines I ran Mobil 1. Oil analysis at every change showed that we were 
>>> OK going 20,000 miles between changes. YMMV.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, June 27th, 2024 at 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you live somewhere that it gets cold at all and you want the dang thing 
>>>> to start when its cold out Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel truck, 5w40 is the way to 
>>>> go. With conventional 15w40 I never could get a W123 to start much below 
>>>> about 10F. With TDT I got my '83 240D to start at -10F which was important 
>>>> to me at the time.
>>>> 
>>>> A block heater removes that issue pretty much entirely as long as you can 
>>>> plug it in.
>>>> 
>>>> IIRC the limiting factor for oil change interval (OCI) on a 617 is the 
>>>> soot loading which (again) IIRC limited you to something like 5,000 miles. 
>>>> You'd want real oil analysis to know for sure.
>>>> 
>>>> The only conventional oil I stock anymore is 15w40 to put in my '52 
>>>> Farmall Super M. It uses 2 gallons of the stuff and for the limited amount 
>>>> it runs every year conventional oil is just fine. Everything else from the 
>>>> lawnmowers to the pickup (diesel tractor, 2 diesel VWs, pressure washer, 
>>>> generator, etc) gets synthetic. The cars at 10,000 miles as spec'd by VW, 
>>>> the pickup is about the same based on the oil change indicator in the 
>>>> truck's computer.
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, June 27, 2024 at 03:14:19 PM EDT, Troy Kocher via Mercedes 
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm a lurker for many years. I've owned 5 W123's in the early 2000, and am
>>>> really in the mood for one again.
>>>> 
>>>> Back then we went back & forth on Mobil1 & conventional diesel oil. Could
>>>> you guys offer the most current wisdom.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm looking at a 1985 300d w/ 320kMi.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Troy
>>>> 77 240d
>>>> 81 300d
>>>> 83 300cd
>>>> 06 E320 CDI
>>>> 06 S500
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