I would add that while implied, I didn’t point out that the headliner is glued down to the roof at the top of the windshield and rear window. The dark brown stuff you see is old glue, probably hide glue (as in made out of rendered animals.) You can’t really do a proper headliner install on these cars without removing the windshield and rear window seals. The fabric actually wraps around the weldment of the window opening in some places, so trhying to “cheat” and jus ttuck it under means having to try and jam a bunch of fabric where it doesn’t belong, or trimming it during installation (very risky!)
And again, it’s the perfect opportunity to replace the windshield and rear window seals, too. With OE rubber, of course! -D On Jul 14, 2024, at 2:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Common, mainly because the back corners are anchored to the rear (C) pillar under the paneling that covers the pillar, and as the material ages it shrinks and pulls out. It’s probably got some of the brown discoloration on it as well. I can’t speak to the W108s, but four years ago or thereabouts when I was doing the W111 220SEb a new headliner, complete from Mercedes, was under $200 and on the shelf in Germany. But - it cost quite a bit to have it replaced. That’s mainly because I had both from and rear glass removed so new seals could be installed. Money well spent and the ideal time to do it all. -D On Jul 14, 2024, at 2:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com<mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote: The headliner in the local W108 4.5 is sagging in the rear. Otherwise, is taut. On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 3:34 PM dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: Older cars with headliners that were installed with bows. -D On Jul 14, 2024, at 12:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: These are problems older cars never had. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 14, 2024, at 2:18 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: These: <https://www.amazon.com/Attmu-Upholstery-Slipcovers-Bedskirts-Inches/dp/B00Q87O00U/?th=1> [41aGnOJcKrL._SR600,315_PIWhiteStrip,BottomLeft,0,35_PIStarRatingFOURANDHALF,BottomLeft,360,-6_SR600,315_ZA9%2C272,445,290,400,400,AmazonEmberBold,12,4,0,0,5_SCLZZZZZZZ_FMpng_BG255,255,255.jpg] Attmu 50 Pcs Upholstery Tacks Headliner Pins Clear Heads Twist Pins for Slipcovers and Bedskirts, 0.5 Inches Bed Skirt Pins<https://www.amazon.com/Attmu-Upholstery-Slipcovers-Bedskirts-Inches/dp/B00Q87O00U/?th=1> amazon.com<http://amazon.com/><http://amazon.com<http://amazon.com/>><https://www.amazon.com/Attmu-Upholstery-Slipcovers-Bedskirts-Inches/dp/B00Q87O00U/?th=1> -D On Jul 14, 2024, at 12:07 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com<http://penoff.com/>> via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: Very common in W210 and W211s, especially if they’ve lived in a hot climate. I’ve seen people use the little “corkscrew” pins to hold it up, but remember, you’re poking into a fiberglass panel in most cases, and it’s not going to like it. -D On Jul 14, 2024, at 12:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: I think the answer is "no" but is there an effective DIY approach to dealing with a sagging headliner? In the past I've tried 3M sticky spray and it initially works but not for long. If not, what sort of shop do I look for? There's one shop locally that advertises repairs that are typically in the $250-$500 range. Car in question is my W211 E500. Headliner is not down but it's sagging over the rear window shelf and seat back area, it flaps around in the breeze if I have the rear windows open. 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