I'd mentioned in passing the other day that I thought my 190D felt much more
like a Japanese car than a German one to which he replied "Acura Legend".
Meaning that the rise of the Japanese near luxury car was already putting the
squeeze on MB even in 1985. I'm sure thats correct, my 190D handles much more
like, looks more like, and is built more like a Japanese car than the MBs that
came before it.
Compared to my 240D it handles like its on rails.
-Curt
'85 190D
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Test drive time! It started right up, and there was no sign of the
former squirrely handling. Seemed decent, and I even worked up some
speed on some corners. I don't know what they're supposed to handle
like, I'm told they handle particularly well, but I found nothing
wrong with it. I had to fiddle with the hazard switch again to get
the signals working, but there's nothing new about _that_.
-- Jim
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As I think of it I wonder if most cars don't leak oil when warming up or
cooling down. When hot alot of the leak points should close up at least some
because of thermal expansion but during the warmup and cooldown times it seems
like especially where different metals meet you'd get the largest gaps possible.
I've been holding off putting M1 in my Honda because I've already got a leak
at the tach cable. Once I get that fixed I'll do it. I may put it in my
Kawasaki this week assuming I can get to the fork seals.
Are you going to use M1 Motorcycle or 15w50? I'm still debating, I believe LT
Don uses 15w50.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:10:47 -0500
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> What always gave me pause is the oil control in older engines is
rarely
> perfect, and 0-weight oil seems like it would leak out much easier.
If
> it pours like water, is it really going to stay in the engine? The
> Marshall answer would be to fix the leaks, of course. :)
This is what I wonder about, however I don't think the '0' part is the
problem. For me leaks are usually a problem when a motor is hot. I am
doing
a fairly large service on my HD Electra Glide and am going to attempt
M1 oil
throughout. In the past M1 oils have proved difficult to keep inside of
air
cooled motor cycles, and in my experience Milwaukee Iron in high on the
problem list. If it works out I will do a top end on my Moto Guzzi and
try
it there. (again)
George Larribeau
Dallas, Texas
1985 300SD 190K
1987 HD FLHTC 86K
1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K
1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS
1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra
Ugly,but runs)
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I've used the M1 Motorcycle in my 86' Honda VF500F, seems fine. But I
wonder if M1 15w50 would be fine. It would be half the price... (or
almost). Especially since I'm hardly riding it at all any more...
I'm wondering the same thing with my 84(I think) Honda TRX250 4-wheeler that
already seems to be slipping a bit until it gets up to speed... I can't
remember how exactly that's set up, but it seems there's something like a
centrifugal clutch until like 2000rpms, then a wet clutch locks in place?
Does that get affected by oil like bikes or not?
Levi
On 7/18/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As I think of it I wonder if most cars don't leak oil when warming up or
> cooling down. When hot alot of the leak points should close up at least some
> because of thermal expansion but during the warmup and cooldown times it
> seems like especially where different metals meet you'd get the largest gaps
> possible.
> I've been holding off putting M1 in my Honda because I've already got a
> leak at the tach cable. Once I get that fixed I'll do it. I may put it in my
> Kawasaki this week assuming I can get to the fork seals.
> Are you going to use M1 Motorcycle or 15w50? I'm still debating, I
> believe LT Don uses 15w50.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:10:47 -0500
> From: "George Larribeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] the same old refrain...
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> > What always gave me pause is the oil control in older engines is
> rarely
> > perfect, and 0-weight oil seems like it would leak out much easier.
> If
> > it pours like water, is it really going to stay in the engine? The
> > Marshall answer would be to fix the leaks, of course. :)
>
> This is what I wonder about, however I don't think the '0' part is the
> problem. For me leaks are usually a problem when a motor is hot. I am
> doing
> a fairly large service on my HD Electra Glide and am going to attempt
> M1 oil
> throughout. In the past M1 oils have proved difficult to keep inside of
> air
> cooled motor cycles, and in my experience Milwaukee Iron in high on the
> problem list. If it works out I will do a top end on my Moto Guzzi and
> try
> it there. (again)
>
> George Larribeau
> Dallas, Texas
>
> 1985 300SD 190K
> 1987 HD FLHTC 86K
> 1984 Motoguzzi Cal -2 80K
> 1972 Motoguzzi Ambassador LOTS
> 1965 Chevy C-10 pick up truck lots of miles 3rd small block ..(Extra
> Ugly,but runs)
>
>
>
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