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--------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Aug 05 12:31:46 2006 Received: from mailout2.parasun.com ([204.174.16.202]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G9LJi-00082w-IU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:31:46 +0000 Received: from rrcs-24-39-222-124.nys.biz.rr.com ([24.39.222.124] helo=user4ykwxvt62x) by mailout2.parasun.com with smtp (Exim 4.54) id 1G9LJT-0004qX-5F for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 05:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:30:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] e: [MBZ WAS ] Anyone Have Carfax? NOW mileage issues X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:31:47 -0000 230 is AMAZING horsepower? You must be kidding right? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] e: [MBZ WAS ] Anyone Have Carfax? NOW mileage issues Its not ALL about weight, the 4wd has double (maybe more) the rolling resistance because of the transfercase and front axle. Plus the weight of the transfercase, front axle and assorted suspension. Not to mention 4wd trucks tend to sit higher and have worse areodynamics because of it. Trucks today should get better mileage, they don't because of the amazing horsepower. The 318ci in my '96 Dakota was rated for 230hp, I believe the new 4.7l makes even more but gets even worse mileage. -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:36:07 -0500 From: "R A Bennell" Subject: Re: [MBZ] [MBZ WAS ] Anyone Have Carfax? NOW mileage issues To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well maybe - the 1968 Chevy is a long box regular cab with a 292 inline 6 and a powerglide but it is 2 wheel drive. The 98 is a short box regular cab with a 4.2 V6 and a manual 5 speed but it is 4 wheel drive. The newer truck does better on fuel but not all that much. The aerodynamics of the 68 are pretty bad. It is like the windshield is verticle. I really can't help but think that the newer truck should be able to do better. My example relates to 2 Fords owned in the past. We had a 1977 Mercury Monarch with a 250 inline 6 that never did better than about 18 mpg (Imp gallons in Canada) and later a 1986 Taurus that would do 36 mpg. They were both about the same size and I assume similar weight. The Taurus had an overdrive transmission and fuel injection etc. It was more aerodynamic as well obviously as the Monarch was pretty boxy. I wonder why they have not been able to make similar gains with trucks. Weight, gearing, size, etc all have an effect I admit but surely the same was true for the cars and they did improve. What am I missing? Randy --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com