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230 is AMAZING horsepower?  You must be kidding right?

Mike
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Its not ALL about weight, the 4wd has double (maybe more) the rolling 
resistance because of the transfercase and front axle. Plus the weight of 
the transfercase, front axle and assorted suspension. Not to mention 4wd 
trucks tend to sit higher and have worse areodynamics because of it.

Trucks today should get better mileage, they don't because of the amazing 
horsepower. The 318ci in my '96 Dakota was rated for 230hp, I believe the 
new 4.7l makes even more but gets even worse mileage.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 12:36:07 -0500
From: "R A Bennell"
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Well maybe - the 1968 Chevy is a long box regular cab with a 292 inline 6 
and a powerglide but it is 2 wheel drive.
The 98 is a short box regular cab with a 4.2 V6 and a manual 5 speed but it 
is 4 wheel drive. The newer truck does
better on fuel but not all that much. The aerodynamics of the 68 are pretty 
bad. It is like the windshield is
verticle.
I really can't help but think that the newer truck should be able to do 
better. My example relates to 2 Fords owned
in the past. We had a 1977 Mercury Monarch with a 250 inline 6 that never 
did better than about 18 mpg (Imp gallons
in Canada) and later a 1986 Taurus that would do 36 mpg. They were both 
about the same size and I assume similar
weight. The Taurus had an overdrive transmission and fuel injection etc. It 
was more aerodynamic as well obviously
as the Monarch was pretty boxy. I wonder why they have not been able to make 
similar gains with trucks. Weight,
gearing, size, etc all have an effect I admit but surely the same was true 
for the cars and they did improve. What
am I missing?

Randy




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