yes, we need to be allowed to tap more areas, build more refineries, and
in the mean time be developing alternative sources of energy. As it
stand now, they have us by the balls with the current oil supply and
refining capacity while trying to develop alternative sources. Would
make life easier on eveyone. Also, we need more nukes.
Tom Hargrave wrote:
I can't argue with your logic in regards to west coast refineries and oil
out of Alaska but the basic problem is that most of the cheapest oil has
been tapped and is being pumped. The rest will cost more to produce and
simple economics will tell you that if it costs more to produce something
then the cost will be passed on to the consumer.
It's the same with any commodity, regardless and the same rules apply to oil
or water melons.
The cost of getting oil out of the ground is going to go up and the cost of
oil based products is going to go up.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:00 PM
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The big problem is all the environmentalist left wing wackos.
Tom Hargrave wrote:
Actually, we have huge oil reserves here in the States but the oil is
locked up in oil rich shale. It takes technology and $$$ to process
oil from oil rich shale. We also have huge coal reserves and coal can
be converted into gasoline & diesel.
The entire availability issue is locked in a cost / demand formula.
Once oil gets expensive enough, there will be plenty to go around.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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list
2/3 of the oil remains in the ground after a well goes "dry". That's
the promise of enhanced oil recovery using steam, CO2, chemicals, and
bugs to recover some of the remaining 2/3..
On 8/27/06, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
LarryT wrote:
Actually, the amount of oil stick in the ground can only be
calculated
when
you use a number indicating the price you'e willing to pay.
But much of the cost of getting it out is in energy used to grab it.
So, to a large extent, it only works if you increase the price of the
form of energy you are extracting without increasing the price of the
others. If all energy prices rise together, the cost prohibitive
sources stay prohibitive.
You do see cheap but nearly empty wells restarting when petro goes up.
There's one I drive by every day, it had been dormant since Desert
Storm settled down. Every once in a while over the past year, they run
it for 2-3 weeks, always when the front month crude contract is over $70.
I figure it was run dry 20 years ago and they restart it when more
crude collects around their intake and the crude is expensive enough
to make a small quantity worth selling. The "bobbing duck" was bobbing
again last week when I drove by. The tank next to the well is small,
definitely under 10,000 gallons, and I don't think they empty it very
often.
Mitch.
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