Sorry, but I think "Roundel" is one LAME name for a car magazine, even for one as annoying as a BMW,,,
On 10/9/06, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mac, No Kevlar or Nomex needed.......... and I got CAPS! I agree with most of what you have experienced. But, and a large BUT, I believe there will be changes in MBCA. And, if elected as a DAL, I will work to make "history" NEVER happen again. History is something that is there and nothing I can say can refute what anyone believes happened. If you wish to witness the change, then stay a member in the MBCA! As to how your local section is focused, only you can change that. Bring in new members who are non-SL, arrange for a cookout or Christmas Party to benefit a local charity, ..... It's your club and your section........ Go for it! I hope one day we can meet, shake, discuss, have a few brews and become friends...... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: > Gary is telling one episode that concerns him. There are numerous > others, > involving people now passed into memory from previous lists. > > I can assure you that had you been present back when that certain > cabal > effectively seized control of MBCA, you *might* not argue this issue. > Unless you condone cronyism, extremely lucrative untendered > contracts to > pals, refusal to be accountable to membership, etc., as legitimate > club > executive behaviour. > > Let's not be sidetracked by MBCA being a 'club'. Its chapters are > indeed > clubs, some more grassroots than others (our local one is a bit too > SL-focused for my palate). Rather MBCA is a rather large business > enterprise > involving a big chunk of cash. > > Oh, and just to turn your crank: I have been in writing/editing/ > publishing > for 20+ years. For the money paid to the publisher, The Star is a > miserable > disgrace, lacking in depth, vision and any form of real meat-n-bones > content. If MBCNA did not feed it high-quality editorial and image > content > it would barely pass muster as part of the auto trader family. You > can print > crap on nice heavy gloss paper, but it's still crap. > > Check out The Roundel, the BMWCA publication. Comes out twice as > often (from > memory), top-notch editor and you can actually enjoy it even if you > don't > own a BMW. I used to look forward to getting it. My Star editions > ended up > in a pile on the living room floor. Couple of years later I sold > them on > eBay. > > I still have my Roundels, and I have not been into BMWs since the late > 1990s. > > Sorry, guys, you are getting ripped big time. > > Mac > Oh I'm a gonna need the Kevlar and Nomex now > > on 10/9/06 9:57 PM, Hendrik Riessen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Yes but you are condeming a whole organisation because of the >> actions of a >> few people and then calling them names on a mail list. Sounds like >> you have >> some issues and using Kaleb's list to vent your anger. >> Of course there is going to be members who are only interested in >> having >> power and playing games but there are also a lot of good people >> involved >> with the MBCA who genuinely are fans of the Star marque. I think >> you went >> into the club with some pre conceived ideas of what it would be >> like and >> when you found out it was the same bullshit only a better class of >> car you >> got sour. Just about every club has power struggles and major >> a***holes who >> f**k it up for others. The only way to deal with people like that >> is to beat >> them at their own game, eventually others will see them for what >> they are >> and then it will be payback time. However if there are no decent >> people left >> in the club then the a***holes have won. >> And how can they get the FBI onto you? I know democracy is pretty >> much a >> thing of the past in this brave new world we are forging for >> ourselves but I >> do not think the FBI wants to get involved in a bitchfight. Unless >> you are >> not telling us the whole story. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] JOINED MBCA >> >> >>> I just don't associate with this kind of group. why would i want >>> to be in >>> a >>> club where bob beltz and george murphy try to get the FBI after >>> me because >>> i >>> don't agree with them? I am as puzzled why any of you would want to >>> belong >>> to such a club as you seem to be puzzled why I would not want to >>> be. I >>> just >>> don't get involved in this sort of unbalanced stuff. >>> >>> But I'm basically for liberty. you want to associate with this >>> sort of >>> thing, then i'm all for you doing so. I, however, will not. >>> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com