Autozone has one also made (AFAIK) by Johnson Controls for about the same price. I put one in my 240D last winter and it was just fine, WAY better than the whatever it was (at least 2 years old) it replaced. AFAIK its still fine now, the friend I sold the 240D to hasn't mentioned it.
-Curt Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:18:32 -0500 From: "Mike Canfield" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fun in the cold this morning To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yeah Levi, The Walmart batteries are made by Johnson control. Arguably the best battery maker in the nation I have heard. They do have a 1000CCA model for like 69 bucks for thier MAXX which is thier top of the line battery. Mike --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 06 22:06:43 2006 Received: from web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.40]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gs4uZ-0004ZW-FF for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:06:43 +0000 Received: (qmail 47586 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2006 22:02:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: tL017JMVM1n6AaC.HqMkq6CDkrM3qV76Is36onlgvedNzHwLsJhDJqX_97re1v5VLV.Q3ZRpTcBL_qvUj9QueCyZcez2b1kOHqkf7zlprhYWwgYcrx8HsVZpdy5S0jI2ZrLfcp_75EndjUo- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:02:55 PST Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold start X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:06:44 -0000 Fer cryin out loud, nobody could have come up with this like 2 weeks ago when the car was at my Indy's? IIRC I had him check chain stretch when I first got the car, I'll take a peek into the files. Is there any other indication of chain stretch like hard starting that should be obvious? How much work are we talking about to figure this? Its not that I mind work its that its cold out.... -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:19:34 -0500 From: "Mike Canfield" Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold start To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Just a theory here but.......If your source of iron IS timing chain wear could it make any sense at all that the longer you run it the less it wears until the point of failure? I don't know how to explain what I am thinking......Kind of like there is less tension on the chain as it wears more so it would wear less until it breaks........Does what I am saying make any sense at all or am I just dreaming again? Mike --------------------------------- Any questions? 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 06 22:09:19 2006 Received: from web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.34]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gs4x5-0004fR-CI for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:09:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 80647 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2006 22:05:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: agDlingVM1mGZDb59USdnUsAQhrsXY7Vg3cDfiP7Wi74fO5tXutiK1j52dYu8OVOvf9YKh1dlEoYnPmrFkmwt1ajbF3Evf1uY4n1ry2lF6Raeg4LoM6cpwpLLWwkRVHLDxmX1zp3.Xi0ciI- Received: from [198.51.119.130] by web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:05:30 PST Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:05:30 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:09:19 -0000 The MB block heater in my 240D was 400watts or somewhere close to that. I ran it off a 400 watt inverter with no troubles (over 3 winters, with the execption of last winter when the cable on the block heater went bad). -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:52:12 -0600 From: Loren Faeth Subject: Re: [MBZ] Block Heater To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The block heater puts out a steady output of heat. Most block heaters use 750 watts, --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Dec 06 22:43:35 2006 Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([63.240.77.84]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gs5UF-0005mD-1O for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:43:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (failure[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with ESMTP id <20061206223947014006d3k9e>; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 22:39:48 +0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 17:39:24 -0500 From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold start X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:43:35 -0000 Curt Raymond wrote: > Fer cryin out loud, nobody could have come up with this like 2 weeks ago when > the car was at my Indy's? > > IIRC I had him check chain stretch when I first got the car, I'll take a peek > into the files. Is there any other indication of chain stretch like hard > starting that should be obvious? > > How much work are we talking about to figure this? Its not that I mind work > its that its cold out.... > > -Curt Despite many mechanics claims to the contrary, timing chain stretch CAN'T be estimated - it MUST be measured. Measuring it is really easy ONCE you get to the chain. That easy with OM61x engines - every time the valve are checked measuring the chain stretch add only about one minute to the time necessary to do the job. After the mid '80s, Mercedes made getting to the crank bolt and getting the valve cover off moderately complex. On OM601, 602, 603 engines it can take between a quarter to a half hour to check the chain. Later engines take longer. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]