Curt Raymond wrote: > At 3,000 mile changes it sure does but at 10k like I run my Mobil 1 > (supported by >analysis) it sure doesnt. > So lets say Mobil 1 is $30 per change and Delvac 1300 is $10. The oil filter > is say $7. > Lets even say I only go 9,000 on the Mobil 1 to make the math easier. > I'm already up $14 and that assumes we don't look at my billable time of > $25/hr for >draining the old oil, changing the filter and disposing of the oil and >filter... > Sure I've had to run some oil analysis to get to the point I'm comfortable > with 10k >changed (and I suspect once my car's engine cleans out it'll go even longer). >Larry's 3 >pack is $55, so after 4 changes I've paid for it... > This also assumes that there are no other advantages in synthetic oil. I'm on > in the >camp that thinks of it as miracle juice...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />Marshall Booth wrote: >>On top of that, group IV synthetics reduce cold start wear (greatest >>source of engine wear in most engines) by 30-80% (depending on who's >>statistics you believe). Then there is the much faster cold starting and >>halved timing chain wear.I was only trying to point out what I feel is a >>financial advantage of using Delvac 1300S vs. Mobil M1 synthetic oil in one's MB diesel. Depending on an independent study being done to verify an appropriate oil change interval for each of these oils and the fact that MB diesel automobiles have had a lengthy reputation for longevity and long before the advent of synthetic motor oils. The cold start benefit would also need to be independently quantified (15W vs. 0W, rather questionable in my view), as well as timing chain stretch.
The prices for these oils at the local Advance Auto Parts: Mobil M1 $19.88/gal. Delvac 1300S $ 8.98/gal.I was only trying to provide a very good alternative for those who may be frugally minded, as the last I knew there isn't any guarantee which comes wih the purchase of M1.G. M. Brown Rochester, NY From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Dec 16 20:23:21 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Gvg41-0007D2-Q9 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:23:21 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (c-24-18-178-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.18.178.168]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with SMTP id <20061216202052m1400ffeebe>; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:20:52 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:20:05 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1972 220D X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:23:22 -0000 Buy it, you will never go back to a souped up benz! On Dec 13, 2006, at 10:56 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Courting possibly purchasing a 220D as a third car or the family. > Southern > car. One owner. 190K miles on vehicle rebuilt engine at 150K. Car > appears to be well maintained. All instrruments and fans work. > Automatic > tranny. > Presendtly being looked at by a reputable mechanic visa via an > inspection/mechanical and rust inspection. > Wanted to gt the lists opinion on these car. Besides the ussual stuff > you > hear from you tubo people about slow acceleration. > Are parts hard to get? > If I can work on a 123 chassis how easy are these 115 chassis. Oil > filters > look a little tougher to change? > > Regards Tom Sordato > 1979 240D > -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz