I must really be doing something wrong. I have an 82 300SD with 125k miles and drive 25 miles to work (mostly highway) and rarely get better than 23-24 mpg (at 65-70mph). I use Red Line Diesel Catalyst and try to watch my tire pressure. The previous owner said that he had had the values adjusted and also reported 28 mph on the highway at 70 mph. Any thoughts?
Peter Peter Van Pelt 1982 300SD Owasso, OK -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Mercedes Digest, Vol 14, Issue 65 Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mercedes digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Ford Diesels? (Curt Raymond) 2. Re: Mileage (Dan Weeks) 3. Re: V12 woes in NE (James Zavesky) 4. Brake pad sensor wires (Chris Kueny) 5. Re: Brake pad sensor wires (Levi Smith) 6. Re: AC Flat (Glenn M. Brown) 7. replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? (Kevin J. Slater) 8. Re: Brake pad sensor wires (Chris Kueny) 9. Re: Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale (Trampas) 10. Evap leak, was Vergasser vs. Diesel (Trampas) 11. Re: OT : VW passat OBD2 code (Trampas) 12. Re: replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? (Trampas) 13. Re: replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? (Tom Hargrave) 14. Re: defrost/heat questions (83 300SD (kevin kraly) 15. Re: defrost/heat questions (83 300SD (kevin kraly) 16. Re: Brake pad sensor wires (Levi Smith) 17. Re: defrost/heat questions (83 300SD (Werner Fehlauer) 18. Re: Mileage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:34:08 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ford Diesels? To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Assuming it can do something like 25mpg I'd consider an F150 with a diesel engine... About the only way I'd consider a fullsize pickup. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:23:36 -0500 From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Ford Diesels? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This copied from an AutoWeek Email today: Ford won't use European diesels for cars in the States By RICHARD TRUETT | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS AutoWeek | Published 01/10/07, 10:22 am et DETROIT -- Ford Motor Co. can't make money selling cars with diesel engines in the United States. So it will use diesels only in trucks in North America. Ford's powertrain plans became clearer at a pre-Detroit auto show event here last month. Mark Fields, Ford's president of the Americas, said the company will not launch a vehicle unless it makes money. The F-150 pickup will get a new 4.4-liter turbocharged V-8 diesel engine developed by Land Rover. It is expected to debut in the United States by late 2008. --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:37:03 -0600 From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mileage To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed My '82 SD with 290k averaged 27.2 mpg on a recent 1533 mile trip from Des Moines to Sedgwick, Maine, laden with three people, a dog, and a very full trunk. According to the GPS, average speed for that trip, ikncluding stops, was 66 mph; much of the time we were running 80-85. I had been averaging 25 mpg in similar driving before getting the valves adjusted. On the return, heading into a 30-35 mph headwind the whole way, and with two 16-foot rowing shells on the roof, running 70-75, I got 22.0 mpg. I was very pleased in both instances. Dan Dan Weeks Freelance Writer and Photographer 515/279-4825 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:39:52 -0500 From: "James Zavesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] V12 woes in NE To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I like that. Back should be strong enough to support the trip to Columbus next month. February is going to be busy. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Werner Fehlauer > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:30 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] V12 woes in NE > > And why not include MBUSA and D-C in the list of responsible agents? I > know > they like to hide behind the "independently owned" excuse, but IMO think > they, by franchising, training, and manufacturing the product have some > share in the responsibility. > I'd bet that if a dealer started to badmouth them, or start modifying > their > cars, they would put a stop to that in a heart beat. > > Werner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Zavesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:15 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale > > > > That is exactly what they did "The dealer is independently owned" and > did > > nothing. So I have to drive three hours to a qualified independent > > mechanic, > > have the intermediate flange change, document this and then sue Mercedes > > Benz of Bedford and I will also ask for damages. Major PITA. > > > > Jim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> On Behalf Of LarryT > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:40 PM > >> To: Mercedes Discussion List > >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale > >> > >> James wrote:<<A bad mechanic at Mercedes Benz of Bedford screwed up > >> > our V12 >> > >> > >> Amazing, you take the MB to the dealer expecting trained "technicians" > >> to > >> have been provided with lengthy training along with experience to be > able > >> to > >> work on a car and ctuallt *fix* it without making things worse. I > don;t > >> have a V12 but have had similar problems. Whenever I pay someone to > work > >> on > >> my car it always comes back either with stuff not done that should have > >> been > >> done, stuff broken, or unrelated things that should have been caught > and > >> corrected (and would have had I been working on it.) > >> > >> I guess it comes down to a shortage of young people willing to get > their > >> hands dirty - and poor training. Our local community has a deal with a > >> local Ford dealer who hires all those who complete the auto training > >> course > >> at $40K per year. That was started back in the early 90s so I expect > the > >> salary has been increased by now. When I was 19, I worked as a > mechanics > >> apprentice at a VW/Porsche dealer. After I was there for a year they > >> sent > >> me to the "Factory" school outside of Wash DC - for a 1 week course in > >> general repair procedures. They had 1 week courses for all kinds of > >> specialities - transmission repair, front end service, etc. Don;t know > >> if > >> they still do that or not. I sure learned a lot. > >> > >> Back to your V12 - in a situation like this I would hope the MB dealer > >> would > >> stand behind the work and have it corrected - and I suspect you would > >> demand > >> someone else work on the car from now on. ;-) While I would hope MB > >> would > >> get involved they will probably use the tactic of saying the dealer is > >> independant and must find their own mechanics. ;-\ > >> > >> Good luck! > >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:42:42 -0500 From: "Chris Kueny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original It seems Beevis at the tire store tore off the pad sensor wire from the brake caliper on the front of my 85 123 wagon. How have you guys delt with that? Seems like I should replace the wire, but it looks daunting. Any hints? Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:44:19 -0500 From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Daunting? It's just a wire maybe 6 inches long with a plug on either end... Unplug dead one, plug in new one... Levi On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems Beevis at the tire store tore off the pad sensor wire from the > brake caliper on the front of my 85 123 wagon. How have you guys delt > with > that? Seems like I should replace the wire, but it looks daunting. Any > hints? > > Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 78 Chevy Custom deluxe > '85 300TD > '02 Subaru Outback > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 19:47:55 GMT From: "Glenn M. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Flat To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain I had my '84 300D AC converted to R134 ~ 10 years ago and, other than having to get a recharge every 2-3 years as the car sat garaged during those winters, I haven't noticed any odors. The only problem I see with R134 is that the system needs to be topped up in order to work efficiently enough, otherwise it'll barely keep up when in the high 80'sF. G. M. Brown Rochester, NY ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:13:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Seems like I've seen this discussed a time or two. How difficult to get to the fan unit and can it be repaired? (Rusty cost on a new unit seems to be $225.) Caleb - have any used units you'd part with for a reasonable fee? ...Kevin 79 240D 87 300TD ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:26:00 -0500 From: "Chris Kueny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original That's good. I thought it snaked it's way up into the engine compartment Thanks. Chris K Cayce, SC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires > Daunting? It's just a wire maybe 6 inches long with a plug on either > end... Unplug dead one, plug in new one... > > Levi > > On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> It seems Beevis at the tire store tore off the pad sensor wire from the >> brake caliper on the front of my 85 123 wagon. How have you guys delt >> with >> that? Seems like I should replace the wire, but it looks daunting. Any >> hints? >> >> Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >> 78 Chevy Custom deluxe >> '85 300TD >> '02 Subaru Outback >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:36:11 -0500 From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yeap I prefer to use Propane over carb cleaner, some gaskets in my experience can fool you with the liquid from the carb cleaner. However I more often have a can carb cleaner handy and use it. If there is some questionable areas I will use propane... Trampas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:15 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'; 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale A trick you can use with carb cleaner - Spreay around the intake, injectors & fittings. Any idle change indictes a leak. Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com ----Original Message---- From: Trampas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01/10/07 10:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Yeap, I replace all the seals and hoses that were hard. I also checked for leaks using propane/carb cleaner and no leaks were found. Trampas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 9:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale I assume that you replaced the seals around the holders as well as the seals around the injectors when you replaced them - then there's the long molded rubber air hose in the middle of the manifold assembly - mine was hard as a rock, and hadn't made a seal for years. Only way to get at it is to dis-assemble the manifold. There are LOTS of hoses that can leak. Every bolt on one side of my intake manifold to head joint was loose - as in I removed them with my fingers. There are also the 8 tubes between the manifold and the plenum beneath it that can leak. The symptoms were started with a rough idle, moved to hard to start, and ended with refusing to start. After I took it apart, I was amazed that it ever ran --- the PO was an independent "Mercedes Shop" in Ft. Worth - I think they pieced this car together from many donors, too late at night, after too many beers. On 1/9/07, Trampas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have looked for intake leaks, I have also replaced injectors, adjusted > mixture, new plugs, wires, cap, rotor, etc. Tried known good idle air > control valve and computer. I did find a bad throttle switch and replaced > that. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:39:20 -0500 From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Evap leak, was Vergasser vs. Diesel To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Using a normal leak detector you can charge system and let sit for an hour, place detector probe near drain for evap, since Freon is heavier than air the sensor will go off. Other methods used are to place sensor in center vent and turn fan on low. This in my experiences often gives false positive readings. Also I thought I heard that the 300D and 90's W126/W124 had evaporator leaks, I am sure others here can confirm this. Trampas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vergasser vs. Diesel, was 87 TD for sale "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The most common AC leak is the expansion valve, second in my opinion > is the charging ports, then front compressor seals and finally > evaporator. Some late models had lots of evaporator problems. My W123 300D will not hold an AC charge. Leaks down in less than a week. My mechanic put a dye in the system and could not locate the leak. He said he checked the expansion valve (it's behind the glovebox, right?) The only thing he could not get at was the evap. It was convereted to R134 by a prior owner. Does that sound like the evap is the problem, then, or could it be the expansion valve but for some reason the dye did not appear there? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:39:52 -0500 From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT : VW passat OBD2 code To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bad plug, plug wire, vacuum leak, or injector/harness. Trampas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT : VW passat OBD2 code I have a 2001.5 Passat and I am getting a code of P0302 (cylinder 2 misfire) any suggestions on what could be the cause. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:45:03 -0500 From: "Trampas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You can take apart if bearings are good and commentator is good take the brushes to local hardware store (some auto parts stores) and get new ones. I did this once on a W126, got brushes from auto parts store that were bigger and then filed down to size. Replaced them and it has been working for 100k miles. First 10k miles the motor was a bit noisy until brushes wore in. Now a days, I just call Rusty and get motor. Just replaced one on the 560SEL few months back. Trampas -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin J. Slater Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? Seems like I've seen this discussed a time or two. How difficult to get to the fan unit and can it be repaired? (Rusty cost on a new unit seems to be $225.) Caleb - have any used units you'd part with for a reasonable fee? ...Kevin 79 240D 87 300TD _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:47:42 -0600 From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This one's easy, much easier than the 114 / 115 body fan. Slide under the glove compartment, remove the screws that are holding the fan in & it will fall out into your hand (or on your head as mine did). Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com ----Original Message---- From: Kevin J. Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 01/10/07 03:14 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] replacing the heater fan in a 1979 240D? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Seems like I've seen this discussed a time or two. How difficult to get to the fan unit and can it be repaired? (Rusty cost on a new unit seems to be $225.) Caleb - have any used units you'd part with for a reasonable fee? ...Kevin 79 240D 87 300TD _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:04:19 -0800 From: "kevin kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] defrost/heat questions (83 300SD To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes, my car does have the sunroof switch in the dash. I haven't checked the dash for a sensor that should be there based on your description. It has a carpeted dash cover which can mess up the sensor readings if there isn't a hole for it. This is how much digging around I've done since I bought the car! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 265K+ miles, Ursula ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:07:08 -0800 From: "kevin kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] defrost/heat questions (83 300SD To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I forgot to mention that my temp wheel has a detent at both the full hot and full cold setting where it locks in and clicks, so that click must be overriding the ACC temp sensor. Kevin ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:09:17 -0500 From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Nope, it's just a little shorty. You might have to use pliers or a screwdriver to pry out the old plug(s) but that's about the extent of the difficulty. (: Levi On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's good. I thought it snaked it's way up into the engine compartment > Thanks. > > > Chris K > Cayce, SC > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Levi Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake pad sensor wires > > > > Daunting? It's just a wire maybe 6 inches long with a plug on either > > end... Unplug dead one, plug in new one... > > > > Levi > > > > On 1/10/07, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> It seems Beevis at the tire store tore off the pad sensor wire from the > >> brake caliper on the front of my 85 123 wagon. How have you guys delt > >> with > >> that? Seems like I should replace the wire, but it looks > daunting. Any > >> hints? > >> > >> Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> 78 Chevy Custom deluxe > >> '85 300TD > >> '02 Subaru Outback > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:09:44 -0500 From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] defrost/heat questions (83 300SD To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Kevin - I hope that carpeted dash cover isn't one of those SoCal purple shags, right? Werner ----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin kraly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] defrost/heat questions (83 300SD > Yes, my car does have the sunroof switch in the dash. I haven't checked > the > dash for a sensor that should be there based on your description. It has > a > carpeted dash cover which can mess up the sensor readings if there isn't a > hole for it. This is how much digging around I've done since I bought the > car! > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > 1983 300SD 265K+ miles, Ursula ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:09:53 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mileage To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If anyone is interested 1979 240D, which I log in every tank full is getting around 27 to 28 mpg, highway, 22-24 city automatic tranny. Comes in around 26 mpg average +/- the 190Ds do a nicer job in the sustainability department. That is a nice selling/purchasing point for future reference. Wonder what a 1972 220D, 115 chassis automatic gets?? Probably the same as a 240D Good info Marshall and Curt Regards Tom Scordato ----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Diesel List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mileage > > '85 190D 2.2l 5spd manual. > Much more peppy feeling than my 240D was and the mileage is about what I > wanted when I bought it. > If I could make myself slow down it'd be better. I run 110 miles a day at > 65-90mph. > The OM601 sounds so good wound out and the car scoots along so good if I > keep the RPMs way up just makes me want to drive fast. > > This car is also alot quieter than my 240D was... I haven't even put in > the replacement hood pad yet. > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 11:20:58 -0500 > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mileage > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Curt, is yours the 190D turbo or 2.2? What year? Miles on the > odometer?? > > On 1/10/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Figured I'd drop in on the mileage debate since I have absolutely no > idea what kind of mileage an SD should get. My 190D reliably gets in > the high 30s. The average over 20,000 miles is 35 point something but > thats largely because of a couple tanks with bad fuel leaks. >> As I move into my second year of ownership I'm going to breakout my > spreadsheet by month which should reduce the effects of a couple bad > tanks. >> >> Best tank ever was ~43mpg, worst was like 21mpg but the car had > several fuel leaks at the time. >> >> -Curt >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > --------------------------------- > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! 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