I tried to get an appointment to see a Jeep Liberty diesel. The dealer laughed and laughed, there was no way he could get one. Turns out Jeep was putting out like 4000 of them a year...
Honda has a brilliant diesel marketing campaign in the UK based largely on an American radio personality... Wierd. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:37:00 -0800 From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels? To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hans Neureiter wrote: > Funny how that thread veered off from Diesels in NA to Mazda. > The article exclaims that cars with diesels don't sell in the USA. > They are not available, that's why. > VW TDIs tend not to stay on the lot long, but I suspect VW is carefully limiting supply to make sure that stays true. Americans just aren't as keen on diesels as Europeans, present company excepted. Part of this is because diesel is taxed less than gasoline in Europe, whereas is the opposite here, which makes the financial incentives to buy diesels a lot lower. It will also take a while for the new, cleaner diesels to win people over. A lot of people still think of diesel cars as smelly, sooty, noisy, underpowered vehicles that won't start in cold weather. Diesels are well accepted in the truck market but seeing Ford Powerstrokes clattering and belching soot doesn't help people accept the same technology in cars. ;) Besides the "gee whiz" factor, I think a big reason hybrids have caught the public's attention is they're seen as delivering diesel fuel economy, but with "clean" gasoline instead of stinky, sooty diesel. --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 11 20:28:42 2007 Received: from web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.41]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H56XS-0008BE-4u for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:28:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 49402 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2007 20:25:17 -0000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-YMail-OSG: oKMlrs4VM1kZ9GMXkt56eGqKN0Fq27oNS4qOX.ZtUQuD8mztdyq.q4qT0C87U0zVdsmpQs2WcvxLOaWlrBItHUYdqvU6Fd01LwdBtxjLrDa6zPvTe0tub2UoVWQyHHgLBstZs0iovT01GW8- Received: from [63.209.225.22] by web32811.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:25:17 PST Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:25:17 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] YOU PEOPLE BEHAVE X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:28:42 -0000 I had mine pulled about 10 years ago also, right after school let out. The following day I was out pounding the pavement looking for a job. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 21:52:54 -0500 From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] YOU PEOPLE BEHAVE To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed i had all four taken out more than 10 years ago - was back at school in 2 days. You'll be ok. --------------------------------- Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 11 20:31:41 2007 Received: from web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.32]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H56aL-0008L6-5r for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:31:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 45528 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2007 20:28:15 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CnHMCMEVM1nOXLtQvIXQBVdInYvRl7dFD6gDGFFWu.UBwCUHWNUJOz3.3skeV_DvaaMbAdm4lOzPkkOxz_F78TXMpN5cEhpnkskqzlUjJBIerPKyDVwINRqsKgTMeBMtTIaHRdDux2bCpWU- Received: from [63.209.225.22] by web32802.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:28:15 PST Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:28:15 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:31:41 -0000 I'm given to understand that the GM 6.2l engines can be a bear to get started in the real cold. Of course the block heater makes things better but as one who spent several winters without anywhere to plug the block heater in thats small comfort. Of course now I can plug in but it hasn't gotten cold enough that I've even had to think about it... Plus my 190D is a better cold starter than my 240D ever was. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:53:13 -0500 From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why are the FEDS boycotting diesel cars? (used to be) Ford Diesels? To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I do not accept the urban legend that Diesels are a problem in cold weather. If you're talking about really far North, like Yellowknife or Dawson, etc, then that would possibly be true, except there almost everyone has a plug-in heater, that makes it as easy as if you were in Atlanta. Present day engines with fast glow plugs start in most parts of the USA, even without being plugged in to external power. Diesel engines in the 1940s and 50s were hard to start in any temperate climate, let alone colder ones, as they typically did not have glow plugs. Just look at old Cat crawlers with their gasoline pony engines and compression release levers - it took several minutes to get these going. Even GM 2-strokes needed ether or many minutes of cranking to fire up. Perhaps that's the source of this "urban legend". Werner --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 11 20:34:12 2007 Received: from web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.33]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H56cm-0008PW-9L for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:34:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 36910 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jan 2007 20:30:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 7tJpwxcVM1kycppB_VgaNDZJWFrY60DmgFQdSail Received: from [63.209.225.22] by web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:30:46 PST Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:30:46 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ford Diesels? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:34:12 -0000 That was sort of what I was baseing the 25mpg number on. That and the guy with the F150 4BT that claimed 28mpg. I still have a pipe dream (future plan sounds better though eh?) of putting a 4BT into an International Scout. Tough cool truck with a reasonably powerful diesel engine. The Scout with the Nissan 101hp diesel supposedly could pull 30mpg... No extra power there though. -Curt Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 20:26:08 -0800 From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ford Diesels? To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > Assuming it can do something like 25mpg I'd consider an F150 with a > diesel engine... My 3/4 ton Dodge diesel will turn in 25-26 mpg, at 60 MPH on the freeway. 20-21 for more normal freeway speeds. -- Jim --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 11 20:37:44 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.233]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H56gC-0008V2-6A for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:37:44 +0000 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i12so479658wra for <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.136.9 with SMTP id j9mr700111hud.1168547656834; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.178.3 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:34:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:34:16 -0500 From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp1 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rubber bumper insert 240D X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: </pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:37:44 -0000 This is a really fun job. Seriously. Get a rubber mallet and start at one end of the bumper and pound the rubber strip. The channel in the rubber simply locks onto the flanges of the steel bumper core! Slide the end of the rubber to tuck into the bumper end, and then pound the rest of the strip systematically until you get to the other end. , On 1/11/07, MICHAEL ESH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is the correct way to insert the rubber bumper pad into the bumper on > a 1983 240 D. > > Thanks, > Mike in Michigan > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >