Geez Curt,
That sounds like the concerete and rebar in a nuclear containment!! When we installed firewater mods the drill bits didn;t last very long and we went through a bunch of them for each hole.

On 2nd thought I wonder if the rebar was as thick as you encountered? That sounds *really* bad! More like steel with a thin coating of concrete!
;-)

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Diesel List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 11:12 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Government use of rebar



Check out http://www.airfields-freeman.com/ME/Airfields_ME_N.htm#presqueisle Scroll down to Presque Isle Air Defense Command and look at the Snark launch pads. Those were built in '58-'60. They're still there. A couple years ago Dad's company was hired to figure out what they really are, all plans of course are top secret. We went up to drill a core sample, I gave up at 9' of solid concrete that was absolutely FULL of huge pieces of rebar. You could have built a Kia out of the rebar we took out of a 3" core hole that was 9' feet long...

Last I knew (spring before last) one of the pads had a firewood processor sitting on it. The firewood company was concerned they'd break the concrete. We assured them that wasn't going to happen in our lifetime.

-Curt

Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:53:19 -0500
From: "Werner Fehlauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT House Building
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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The Government really could spec re-bar to excess - when we built the
Titan2
silos, they used the largest rebar made, 2 1/4" diameter, on 12"
centers
both vertical and horizontal, inside wall and outside wall - and the
concrete was 8 ft thick on the top half of the silo walls.  Concrete
was
also "Class A", had to meet 3000 psi compressive strength.
Most house cellar walls I've seen in the last 20 years have been poured
with
cheap concrete between forms and without any wire or steel to keep
cracks
from separating.  Most of the time the builder is long gone before too
many
cracks show up, or the owner just doesn't see them or know that it
isn't
"normal".

Werner


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