Thanks for the reminder, thats the other thing I'll order Monday... I did them on my '81 300TD and it was pretty easy. A 1/4" socket set with a u-joint socket is the way to go. If you have magnetic sockets all the better as you won't drop the nut on the end. It'd be a good idea to have a magnet on hand to fish that nut back up with. Easiest way is to take the injection lines off, maybe a good time to replace the clips if they're tatty and you care about that sort of thing. Even if you don't you should be able to get to all the glowplugs without to much acrobatics.
-Curt Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:55:17 -0500 From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WAS 123 Blower Motor failure - NOW Diesel glow plugs R&R To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I decided to splurge and replace all my glow plugs for my 1983 W123 300TD wagon. The car starts poorly and stalls for the first 2-3 minutes; also, I haven't replaced them in 150 k miles. 1) Does it matter what brand I purchase? Cost seems to range between @ $8 - $12. 2) What tools will I need? How long will it take (I am somewhat experienced)? 3) Are there any pitfalls? Thanks in advance, Andrew 300TD '83 300CD '85 --------------------------------- Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 02 23:48:42 2007 Received: from web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.29]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HD894-0005PK-C3 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:48:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 86473 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 23:47:54 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nQn3kVoVM1kWTMXvBR25d.k1ebEnOmC.R_BG_ovd Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30012.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:47:54 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:47:54 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: [MBZ] OT: German Shepherds was battery recharge and driving with the lights on X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:48:43 -0000 The British hated everything German so much after WWI that THEY started calling them Alsatian Shepherds...even Alsatian Wolfdogs in some instances. Since the 70's (I think) the Brit's have eased up and now call them German Shepherd Dogs. In the US, they were always officially known as the German Shepherd Dog. That Alsatian thing really bugs me. The same anti-German hysteria swept the US during WWI too. At the beginning of the war there were over 10,000 German language schools in the US. By the end of the war, I think it was 12. If it weren't for that, I (and alot of others) would probably still speak German becuase my family (mom's side) wouldn't have had to hide their ethnicity. Oh well. Sorry for the rant. Chris Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You could really act superior and call them Alsatians. Brian Christopher wrote: > > GSD = German Shepherd Dog. My two dogs. The German Shepherd is one of the > few dogs that have the word "dog" in their official name, so they are > "GSD"s for short. > > Chris > > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, "Anke" (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, "Heinrich" (Zane von der burg Austerlitz) -1985 300SD, 219K miles, "Wulf" -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, "little blue klatter box" --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 02 23:50:48 2007 Received: from web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.32]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HD8B6-0005SL-Lj for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:50:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 73054 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 23:49:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ez4WZ4sVM1mdIEmk2BdhmGUlKsubhtn5VyIDSj0..lUtEEIAlki4APj6v0vU4GEh0_DDrDGLmdUlU9pD4C6NHu7owXubxlDGaI_xryOobMDLvbmwHgXbw_aOcfLvPOXFfbcamlMQh4ZHVqo- Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:49:59 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:49:59 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] battery recharge and driving with the lights on X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:50:49 -0000 Thanks Tom, that makes perfect sense. I forwarded some of the messages on this thread to my friend who was telling me (and others) this line and he ceded the point. Chris Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Driving with the headlights on reduces the charge to your battery & increases your charge time because the headlights pull away current that could be dumping into the battery. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] battery recharge and driving with the lights on Christopher McCann wrote: > I am told by everyone that driving with your lights on (or some other accessory) helps to recharge the battery faster after starting by putting a load on...the alternator? the battery? something. I don't get electricity. > > BUT, I THINK, I recall Marshall (sorry if I am mis-recalling) arguing that this does not hold for our older cars... > I never heard of that! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, "Anke" (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, "Heinrich" (Zane von der burg Austerlitz) -1985 300SD, 219K miles, "Wulf" -1982 300Dt, 117K miles, "little blue klatter box" --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 02 23:55:26 2007 Received: from web30010.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.27]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HD8FZ-0005lm-Gw for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:55:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 70852 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2007 23:54:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: r.LyzGAVM1kPN7.K0zv2rstFZ2_ZQusTCiQOE2Jgge.rW8g0cpl_4__aqHEW6IHZCjLlyhpDM0x2q3K2gy0pHL5cDmrhnOlG2ZF4.dPoVO2JwglbT5OKHqUwXx7q5lKuKMQoEeyuxOG5dmw- Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30010.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:54:37 PST Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:54:37 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil is Killing our Cars....comments anyone?...esp. regarding Mobil 1 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:55:26 -0000 Excellent. Will proceed as I've been doing. M1 & MB spec everything. Thanks, Chris Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: > http://www.svmgcc.org/tech_tips/oil_is_killing.htm > Nothing new here. The "nits" have been arguing about this for years. The people that seriously lubricate car and truck engines settled this and make fine oils. Mercedes warned against choosing oil based on API rating. Use a Mercedes rated oil and it will protect your engine. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) 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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 02 23:57:01 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HD8H6-0005w9-WF for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:57:01 +0000 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a4so182206nfc for <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:56:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.163.13 with SMTP id l13mr1453164bue.1170460572935; Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.149.16 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 15:56:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:56:12 -0600 From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft R&R? 85 300TD X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:57:01 -0000 I posted this about 5 hours ago and never saw it come up, is that normal? Harry On 2/2/07, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can the shaft be removed as one piece? Is this considered a three piece > drive shaft? > > Thanks > > Harry >