Took a trip down to Tucson from Saturday to this morning. I drove the 300D, wifey followed in the Acura (she was following in the Acura just workin' on her fitness..). Remembered there are four places that sell bio. I burned two tankfulls (B-99) through in four day. Still amazed how much quieter she runs and how much less she smokes when using bio. Then, I remembered there is only ONE SINGLE PUMP of bio in all of Phoenix/Mesa/Tempe. Phoenix is dumb. Tucson isn't. And, furthermore, it's too hot already.
Bob Rentfro '77 300D 168K '87 Acura Legend 183K Goodyear, AZ From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 23:00:55 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.246]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id 1HRcSl-0007vT-4u for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:00:55 +0000 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b6so412972ana for <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.143.1 with SMTP id q1mr2692128and.1173913247352; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.167.15 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:00:47 -0500 From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM 617 badly sick (was 126 pre chambers) X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com> List-Unsubscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com> List-Post: <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:00:55 -0000 One other observation: the frequency of the knock is as close as I can tell 1/2 the rpm i.e. the result of the powersroke of one of the cylinders. On 3/14/07, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I went to do some more investigating: > Excessive blow-by is not evident. The turbo is slightly oily, but the > shaft is moving a little in radial direction. > The motor started right up. A huge, scary clunk at first that turned > into a steady, loud hammering. Oil pressure first pegged and went to > 2.5 bar at a steady 800 RPM idle. > When operating temp reached 85 C (after ~ 5 min.) pressure dropped to > slightly above 1 with a few short excursions to below 1 bar. > Loosening the injector lines resulted in a noticeable reduction of > knock intensity but was equal for each cylinder. > Using a stethoscope, the highest intensity of the knock is apparent > near the front crank seal and at the Vac.pump housing. > Lots of blue smoke at first that never really cleared. > Motor ran for at least 20 minutes until turned off. > Questions: > Can injectors/prechambers be ruled out as major cause? > Does oil pressure behavior indicate crank bearing failure? > Does most noise coming from front crank seal indicate balancer failure? > Do I have a conglomeration of failing parts (Turbo seal = blue smoke, etc.) > My conclusion so far: 90% bottom end problem. But what? > > On 3/14/07, Trampas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have two W126s with OM617s that my wife is after me to get rid of. I am > > located in Raleigh NC. Just in case you need an engine. > > > > One of the cars is a 1985 300SD with around 300k miles, runs and drives but > > needs front end rebuilt (tie rods etc). Also the body is a bit rough as it > > does have 300k miles. > > > > The other one is a 1984 500SEL which I put a OM617 in, the engine runs > > great, but the body is rusted. The engine came from a 1982 300D that was in > > worse shape. > > > > I have been meaning to get some pictures of the two beasts, will let you > > guys know when I get some up. > > > > Trampas > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Peter Frederick > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:08 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 126 pre chambers > > > > Worst case it ingested water and it's toast (bent rods), but in that > > case the response would have been pretty fast and probably wouldn't > > have started. Lots of blue smoke out the back before it died? > > > > Don't know -- time to pull the injectors and do a compression test. > > > > Peter > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX > '82 300SD, '95 E300D > -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D