Larry, I should have noted that you are feeding your desk top & lap top computers. This means that your router is set up correctly. It would not be providing an IP address for each machine if it were not.
Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com ----Original Message---- From: LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 03/17/07 03:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits therecyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tom wrote:<<a properly configured hardware router is the best firewall you can buy>> Hi Tom, I need a little more explanation please - I have a ethernet router feeding my desktop and laptop. The Belkin router was configured by Comcast - aalthough we used it straight out of the box for the most part - What more should have been done to be a "a properly configured router" ? Since I shouldn't need a firewall, do I need an Anti-virus? Can a virus get thru? Eliminating those 2 programs would speed up my systems quite a bit IMO. I kinda understand what you're saying about a router - but if the broadband gets thru why not a hacker? Thanks - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers-hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement > Bill, > > I recommend uninstalling the application. If uninstalliing resolves the > issue then I'd push for a full refund or a solution. > > One real issue with Windows is the continued poor quality of some > software vendors. > > Another real issue with Windows is computer owners installing multiple > anti-virus & firewall programs. > > Neither of these issues are Mocrosoft or Windows fault. > > By the way, if you have a router installed then you don't need a > firewall, not even Windows firewall because a properly configured > hardware router is the best firewall you can buy. Why? Because the bad > guys can't reach through the box to your machine. Plus, the firewall is > away from your machine. With a software firewall, the bad guys are > already inside your machine and you are depending on the firewall to > keep them from going further. > > But Symantec & the other software jockeys won't tell you this because > they would sell less worthless software. > > Anti-virus software is a different story. > > By the way, Windows is attacked so frequently because it's 80% of the > install base. Apple is just as vulnerable and Lynux is more vulnerable > but the virus writers don't bother. They are much happier attacking the > 80% install base. If the roles were reversed and Lunux or Apple were on > top then everyone would be bashing that OS for its vulnerabilities. > > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > > ----Original Message---- > From: BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: 03/16/07 01:41 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers > -hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Tom - I don't believe it is a hardware or memory problem as everything > worked perfectly for the 2 years prior to installing "XP Repair Pro > 2007". > I have little doubt that program is the problem. The continuing problem > is > that neither I nor the tech folks at XP Repair Pro 2007 can figure out > how > to get Outlook to download and send email. I check for spyware > regularly, > though I don't expect that is the problem. > It remains a mystery, but one that is merely annoying, not a show > stopper. > BillR > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'BillR'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - > hijackedtoMSOffice/Outlookreplacement > > >> Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), I work > on >> a lot of Windows boxes. >> >> And over 90 percent of the issues I resolve can be attributed to one > of >> three causes. >> >> 1. Hardware not up the task, usually not enough memory. >> >> 2. Poorly written or incorrectly configured aftermarket application. > For >> example, aftermarket firewall and Windows firewall turned on. >> >> 3. A rogue application (spyware, etc) running, usually downloaded from > a >> porn or gambling site. >> >> Of the systems I manage, I have zero issues with Windows. And the >> systems run a mix of 98, 2000 and XP. >> >> 2000 was my favorite OS but XP SR2 is rock solid. I'm doing trial > Vista >> installs now and I don't have an opinion of the OS yet. >> >> Office 2000 is excellent, Office XP is terrible and Office 2003 is > even >> better than 2000. >> >> Most who experience Office issues either don't have adequate hardware > or >> are experiencing issues with aftermarket software. Neither of these > are >> Microsoft's fault. >> >> Tom >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "BillR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: 3/16/07 8:32 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked >> toMSOffice/Outlookreplacement >> >> Thanks Tom - I have been getting that feeling. The only real issue I >> have >> at the moment is that a recently installed system cleaner [XP Repair > Pro >> >> 2007] has caused Outlook to crash every time there is mail to download >> or >> send. The test settings works great and that test settings email is >> fine to >> both send and receive, the calendar and contacts works great, but I > just >> >> can't send or receive regular emails. I do download a 'shell' that >> includes >> an extra several dozen lines of stuff, then puts the 'email' at the >> wrong >> end of the queue, and crashes Outlook. Every time. If there are no >> emails >> going out or coming in everything is fine with a 'send / receive' and > it >> >> does not crash. I did a backup prior to running the program, but >> restore >> doesn't help. I have reinstalled Office twice and done 'detect and >> repair' >> about 5 times. Next attempt will be to install on the other hard > drive >> just >> to see if that will help. XP Repair Pro 2007 folks say they don't >> understand it either and are working on the problem, but no luck yet. > I >> >> have had to go to an old version of Outlook Express to get email, and > it >> >> does not integrate the calendar sharing function that I used a lot. >> Quite >> frustrating. >> >> Lee - I appreciate your suggestions >>"For e-mail, contacts and >> scheduling, >> take a look at Kontact, should be >> installed by default on KDE-based distros like Mepis and Kubuntu.<< > I >> should have mentioned I am a frequent but casual user. I have not > heard >> of >> the programs you mention. Will Kontact let me share a calendar with a >> big >> corporate MS Office user? >> Thanks guys - BillR >> 1981 300 SD 286k miles, and I got 28 mpg - half city, half open road >> driving - on the first tank after my new glow plugs were installed. > It >> will >> take awhile to pay for itself with the better MPG, but I like it. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked to >> MSOffice/Outlookreplacement >> >> >>> Bill, >>> >>> You are 100% correct. For the casual user, Open Office is great but >> for >>> the >>> power user there is nothing like MS Office. And 2003 is the best >> version >>> to >>> date. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Hargrave >>> www.kegkits.com >>> 256-656-1924 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of BillR >>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:51 AM >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers - hijacked to MS >>> Office/Outlookreplacement >>> >>> Luther, and other computer savvy folks, >>> I have a 2 - 3 year old Compaq Presario, which I am reasonably happy >> with >>> [still miss my company owned laptop, though], running Windows XP. I >> would >>> be happy to find a good replacement for MS Office Professional 2003 - >>> especially Outlook. From a quick look it does not seem that >> OpenOffice >>> deals with schedules and email, though I am sure contacts are >> included.. >>> Am >>> >>> I missing something? I do a fair amount of word processing, and am > in >> the >>> middle of having to switch to Word from WP, but most of my computer >> time >>> is >>> emails. It is helpful to be able to share calendars with my wife [at >> her >>> office] and my MiL in her attached apartment. Any suggestions? >>> >>> BillR >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:40 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vista hits the recyclers >>> >>> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org >>>> >>>> does all you need, and is compatible with Micro$#IT.... >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
