I'm pathetic. I finally replace the starter, and I head for the
computer to tell the list about it.

Actually, though, I benefitted from the advice I got some time ago
that told me to drop the starter out the bottom, and rotate it. Oh,
and turn the wheels one way or the other. One heck of a lot easier
than pulling it out the top (which I successfully did one night).

Brian
83 240D

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