I am willing to hazard that a lighter color does reduce heat gain. Gump is Dunkel Grun exterior with standard black Tex interior. I got a bug up my --s a few years ago that she would look better with a tan interior, so got the rattle can and went to town. Prior to the new color, summer heat in the cabin was excessive if the car had sat sealed for much of the morning. With the lighter color, she is stuffy, but not as hot. I am going to install a dual interior/ exterior thermostat and see how hot she gets.
The E300D is dark blue with tan interior. She gets warm as well, but not blistering hot. Both cars are great heat sinks with the dark colors, and metal body parts are not fun to rub against with bare tummy in summer. Really great for rinsing off dirt, because they dry fast. A bad thing with the dark, there is a decrease in life span for clear coat. Might be poorly applied, but both Gump and the ED are having roof clear coat issues. I am in the process of giving Gump a freshening of coat. I used a razor scraper to remove the flakey edges of the huge blisters and wet sanded to smooth the transitions. Her original green was getting really faded. Took three rattle cans of clear coat to give her a nice splotchy coating. Waiting for it to cure, then will wet sand with 1500 to give her back some shine. clay On Jun 29, 2007, at 12:52 PM, R A Bennell wrote: > I will admit that I do not know the technical answer to the > question posed. However, I think we all know that one > can generally lay one's hand flat on the hood of a white car that > has been sitting in the sun but one cannot do > that with a dark colored car. I have to think that there is going > to be some heat transfer if the metal is hotter. > Given a long enough time, the interior might end up about the same. > We need a test to see if it is true. > > The same sort of thing happens to the interior as well. Try sitting > on a black vinyl seat when the sun has been > shining through the window. My old 68 Chevy pickup has a black > bench seat and you don't want to climb aboard in > summer wearing shorts. My 300D has the off white color seats and I > can never recall the seats being uncomfortable > no matter how warm the car is when I get in. > > Of course, I'm not in Arizona either. > > Randy > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Paint Color & Heat : was Window Tint > > > Got to chime in on this one. > > I do see the point that given enough time maybe the white car would > gather about as much heat as the black car. But then again, maybe not, > because all the while, the black car's surface is collecting more heat > than the white's. > > I'm chiming in because my Dad (you met him, Chuck - quite a brainy > guy) was always and advocate of the light colored car and pointed out > white roofs on buses etc. We grew up in Tucson. In fact we have a > picture of my sister up on top of our van painting the top of it white > with a brush. Classic picture. > > Of course my dad was all about visibility too, and the lighter colored > cars are good there I think. He liked to point out how the fire trucks > and ambulances switched from red to chartreuse. > > Oh, and when we were teens we wanted sorely to paint our cars red, but > he constantly quoted the statistic that red cars get more tickets. By > the time I was of driving age or a bit older, family authority had > loosened enough that not only did I wind up with a big block coupe as > my first car, but I eventually painted it red (then black!). > > Brian > > On 6/28/07, ernest breakfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hi Chuck! >> >> i'm sure if they were to sit for long enough there wouldn't be >> any >> difference, but i can assure you that there is a very real and >> noticeable difference in the black and white painted areas of my >> J**p... >> i'm betting that after enough hours there would be enough heat energy >> passing through to the interior through the glass that interior temps >> might be equal, but it would appear that having the roof white at >> least >> slows down the rate at which the vehicle heats up. (ever notice >> how the >> roofs of school buses, motor homes, and Land Cruisers/Rovers that see >> Dez duty are white?) >> >> >> cheers! >> e >> >> >> Chuck Landenberger wrote: >>> Hi guys, >>> Living in the Valley of the Sun, I've got two cars that are tinted >>> and that helps while one is driving. And they are both Smoke Silver >>> because I didn't want any dark colored car. >>> >>> But, does anyone have any information to determine if there is any >>> interior temperature differential between similar black and white >>> cars sitting for a fixed period of time in the sun. >>> >>> I've been told anecdotal info that indicates there is NO difference >>> at all. >>> >>> Just an inquiring mind! >>> >>> Take care and be safe, >>> >>> Chuck >>> Phoenix AZ >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2007, at 6:31 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Loren, >>>> >>>> not sure i understand what your issue with tinting is; what >>>> about >>>> tinting makes a car ghetto (or whatever you actually call it)? in >>>> places >>>> where the sun actually shines, it can make a car much more >>>> pleasant, and >>>> even preserve the interior by not allowing interior temps to rise >>>> as high. >>>> >>>> i wouldn't have my J**p XJ now without tinting, but that's >>>> because >>>> it plays in the Deserts, high-altitudes, and all along the >>>> coasts; all >>>> of which can be sunnier than what i care to expose myself or my >>>> vehicle >>>> interior to... its tinting has only been there for about 10 >>>> years so >>>> far, but it still looks fine; no indication of any need to redo it >>>> yet, >>>> but that's probably because it was professionally done by a >>>> place that >>>> knew how. granted, it's California Legal (clear front doors and >>>> windshield) because that's where it's registered, but even that >>>> partial >>>> tinting combined with the roof painted white sure seems to keep it >>>> cooler inside than before i made those mods. >>>> the tinting in the 300D is a little bit shaggier looking, >>>> but it >>>> came to me that way; that's only because the POs dogs had left >>>> scratches >>>> on it in a couple of places (and i don't know how quality of a >>>> job it >>>> was to begin with). it's a full tint except for the windshield, and >>>> also >>>> one of the only '85s i've seen that doesn't have a single crack >>>> in the >>>> dash or anywhere else in the interior, in spite of the fact that it >>>> was >>>> originally a Southern California car. >>>> >>>> on a recent road trip to Eastern Texas and back, i noticed >>>> that in >>>> places where they really know sun, it was hard to find cars that >>>> *didn't* have tinting... but you know what a ghetto places like >>>> Scottsdale, Santa Fe, and Palm Springs are. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> cheers! >>>> e >>>> >>>> >>>> Loren Faeth wrote: >>>> >>>>> Why would you want to turn a good MB into a ghetto ride? (my real >>>>> terminology is somewhat different) >>>>> >>>>> Took me hours to scrape of the stupid "tint" off the back >>>>> window of >>>>> the TD. The crap does deteriorate. Even if it is ok for a >>>>> year or 3 >>>>> after it is put on, it deteriorates and is a holy mess to get off. >>>>> >>>>> At 06:46 PM 6/28/2007, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Window tinting in Seattle is like buying a snow blower in SO >>>>>> CA.....just in >>>>>> case I ever need it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 6/28/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> But you'll be very happy with it. You will not find any >>>>>>> flaws (or >>>>>>> shouldn't) and will look at it with pride of ownership you would >>>>>>> never >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> if you tried to do it yourself. You might do something like >>>>>>> this once >>>>>>> every >>>>>>> 15-20 years while the pro's do 2 or 3 a *day*!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's the only way you get good at it - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After a while you'll forget about the $250 - but you'll always >>>>>>> remember >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> quality because it'll be in front of you everyday. Just like a >>>>>>> poor job >>>>>>> full of wrinkles will be in front of you also - reminding you of >>>>>>> those $$s >>>>>>> you saved. ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried it once myself on a Chev sedan we had - it looked >>>>>>> terrible and my >>>>>>> wife commented on it daily - I ended up removing it and living >>>>>>> without it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Zeitgeist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an appointment for next Tuesday, to have the pros >>>>>>>> install tint. >>>>>>>> $250--ouch! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Casey _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
