On 6/28/07, Troy Kocher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The only reported issue was once, three weeks ago, when my daughter
> reported it wanted to die when she came to a stop, at a traffic light .
> Later that evening by the time I got to the car I couldn't reproduce the
> problem.
>
> Stopped by my mechanic today and described the problem to him and thought
> I had flooded it at this point and advised taking out the plugs, getting the
> fuel out of they cylinders by cranking till it all is out.  Replacing the
> plugs with new ones, Replacing the distributor cap & rotor button.  When I
> described the spark I was seeing from the plugs as 'bright white' he thought
> that strange as he typically sees a red spark from the plugs.
>
> Haven't tried smelling the plug hole, but when I removed the plug
> originally it was pretty dry.  Right now ambient temp here is 90+F &
> humidity of >80%.
>
> thanks for your continued input. . Hope I don't have to give up and tow it
> to the mechanic! :-(
>
> I think I'll try the plugs and rotor next. . seems reasonable. .
>
> Troy Kocher
>
> On 6/28/07, Hendrik Riessen < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > OK we'll go back one step, in order for an engine to run you need three
> > things; fuel/air mixture, compression and spark. This all has to happen
> > at
> > the right time obviously.
> > Right now I am still focusing on fuel because losing compression all of
> > a
> > sudden is a rare thing, can happen if the valve timing is off.
> > Losing ignition timing all of a sudden is also pretty rare, can happen
> > if
> > the dizzy came loose.
> > When you crank it and then remove a plug, do you get a smell of fuel
> > happening? If the engine is getting fuel but the timing is off you
> > should be
> > able to smell (and perhaps see a wet plug) fuel.
> > Another possibility is that you have lost your cold start circuit,
> > although
> > unless it is really cold the engine will fire without that circuit.
> > I take it that the car was running fine before it decided to stop
> > playing
> > ball?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Troy Kocher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" < mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 190e 2.6 won't start
> >
> >
> > >I do have spark I tested the front most plug wire with a
> > screwdriver.  I
> > > also removed one of the center plugs, left it connected to the plug
> > wire
> > > and
> > > watched it spark. .
> > >
> > > Troy
> > >
> > > On 6/27/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> A KE-jet engine will run without a working OVP relay, it will run
> > without
> > >> the injection computer working but will not run without a working
> > >> ignition
> > >> computer.
> > >> You do have spark?
> > >>
>
>


Turned out, after replacing the plugs, rotor & distributor cap it is running
and back to normal. .

thanks  for all the help on this. . !

Troy
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