Consider the history of the 1911 .45 and its flawless performance in the 
military and there isn't much out there that can compete. I managed to get my 
hands on a postwar 1911 and I have to admit there is no question why it was so 
popular. As a happy medium though I prefer my .40 Sig as a home defense weapon 
simply because its easier to shoot and just as effective.


Harry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:26 am
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Handguns and the law



i'm a .45 acp lover myself, but this mystique of the miraculously
devastating .45 is all nonsense.  the traditional 230 grain subsonic .45 is
a nice effective round, but it really won't knock an elephant 9 feet up into
the air.  and if you shoot someone in the finger with one and he falls down,
it's probably because he's seen in the movies and thinks that's what you do
when shot.  and a modern, high pressure 9mm will kill a guy just as well.

i personally like big bore guns (ask some of the kids about my .454), but
carry a .380 in real life as the bigger guns just make my pants fall down at
inopportune moments.

On 8/17/07, Robert Bigham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When I was being trained for familiarization with the Government .45, our
> instructor told us "If you shoot someone with this pistol and hit him in
> the
> finger, it is going to knock him down."
>
> He also disproved the canard that the pistol is more dangerous to an
> adversary if you throw it than if you shoot it.  The man could powder
> small rocks 50 yards away.  My class learned to shoot pretty well if I
> remember correctly.
>
> Before the Brady Law went into effect, I felt a strange need to own a
> pistol
> the feds wouldn't know about.  I was undecided between a Government .45
> automatic, which I thought I knew about, and a .357 Magnum revolver.
>
> A gun store guy explained the difference thus:  "Suppose you were shooting
> it out with someone taking cover behind the corner of a brick building.
> The
> .357 Magnum will shoot through the builidng.  The Government .45 will
> knock the building down."
>
> The 9 mm has low recoil, but it is nowhere near as powerful as either the
> Government .45 or the .357 Magnum.
>
> For maximum power and recoil, try a Ruger .44 Magnum, but that is another
> story.
>
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:26:02 -0500
> From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote
>
> Bill,
>
> If all you are interested in is sport then you really need to consider a
> Ruger MKIII. They are wonderful shooting weapons, accurate & reasonably
> cheap to feed because they shoot 22LR cartridges.
>
> If you have any ideas for home defense then consider a 45ACP from one of
> several manufactures. The bullet is huge (0.45" diameter) and slow and
> will
> stop your intruder. You don't want to kill him, just stop him - RIGHT NOW.
> And if he dies from the results of his own actions, then.....
>
> Why not a 9mm that's so popular these days? Because a 9mm will not stop a
> drug crazed invader unless you hit a vital spot & in home defense, you
> don't
> have time to aim. You only have time to point & squeeze.
>
>
>
>
>
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