The trans in the 116 450 and Im pretty sure also the 107 is 3 speed.  The 
tranny in the 108 should be 4 speed.

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Kaleb C. Striplin
Cox Auto Trader
730 FSBO Supervisor

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Bruckmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:37 AM
Subject: [MBZ] W108 4.5 - save me from myself


> OK everyone, this is your last chance to save me. I'm about to take the 
> plunge on a beautiful 72 280SEL 4.5 (as a consolation, I also bought a 79 
> 300D beater today).
>
> Here are the details on the 4.5:
>
> POSITIVES:
>
> 93,000 original California miles, confirmed with service docs and the 
> condition of the car, which is absolutely positively rust free even in the 
> nastiest places. Dealer maintenance stamps for at least the first 65,000 
> miles. The car was in storage from 1994 to earlier this year. Original 
> robin's egg blue paint! Blue leather interior. Oddly, the wood, dash and 
> door panels are all pristine, but the leather seats look like someone went 
> at them with a ginsu knife. Selling price is below $4000.
>
> NEGATIVES:
>
> No sunroof. Heater controls inop. A/C fan works but does not blow cold 
> (was converted to 134a). Steering box needs adjusting; also, pump groans 
> and probably needs to be replaced. Driver's window skips on the way up and 
> needs help. Headliner coming loose where it always does, above the rear 
> window. Car was in storage for 12 years.
>
> QUESTIONS:
>
> -am I insane?
>
> -should I be worried about kingpins, and how long do they usually last
>
> -I was surprised to find a GM/Harrison R4 compressor for the A/C. Am I 
> correct in thinking that this car would originally have come with a York 
> and that the R4 is a result of the R134a retrofit?
>
> -how the hell does that "hydropneumatic compensator" in the rear axle 
> work? Is there a pressure circuit from the engine?
>
> -I presume that 100k miles is nothing for the 4.5, but I'm a little 
> worried about the automatic. The friction coupling instead of torque 
> converter makes me a little nervous. Are there warning signs of failure? 
> It seems to take a bit long to get into D or R from P or N, and I have 
> vague memories that this is some sort of an indicator of impending doom. 
> Has anyone here ever swapped in a later 4spd automatic from a W116 or 
> W107? I'm thinking that extra gear might lower fuel consumption (not that 
> I'd replace the transmission unnecessarily, but if it goes...)
>
> -are the rear diffs or any other part of the drivetrain failure-prone? 
> There seemed to be a bit of roughness that increases with speed and load; 
> perhaps a centre bearing or something?
>
> -is the driver's electric window a total nightmare? I assume there are 
> teeth missing on the drive gear and that it will all have to come out.
>
> -I understand that the heater controls are a standing issue with these 
> cars, but presume that this, too, can be overcome.
>
>
> Forgive me dieselers, but I have lusted after a W108 since childhood!
>
> D.
>
> -- 
> David Bruckmann, Palo Alto, CA
> Current Reality:
> 1970 Citroen DS21 Pallas (170,000 km) "Goettin"
> 1976 Citroen 2CV6 (145,000 km) "Piaf"  http://dolly.bruckmann.com/
> 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300D (390,000 km)
> Shady Past:
> 1971 Citroen DS21 Pallas (137,000km), 1972 Citroen DS21 Pallas (502,000km)
> 1978 Mercedes-Benz 300D (1,200,000 km or thereabouts) "Sieglinde"
> 1979 Mercedes-Benz 300TD non-turbo (260,000 km)  "Diva"
> 1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km)
> 1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1984 MB 300TD (385,000 km) "Gertraud"
> 1985 Toyota Camry "The Slamry" (330,000km) 1986 Renault 9 1.7L (155,000 
> km)
> 2002 VW Golf GLS TDI (74,000 km)
>
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