Very well said, Ernest. I hadn't thought of a couple of those angles. I can say that almost all the jobs I have gotten in any field have been through someone I knew, or knew through someone. That's the key I think. People just feel much much better about going with someone they know or have some connection to.
Sort of the same with trying to find a date. Brian On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:50 PM, ernest breakfield < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > > Craigslist has been a great resource for me, as has Monster.com; > since they've showed up on the scene, *nothing* has gotten me as much > action as they do, but i'm admittedly in a very different field and > environment than you are. > employeesources.com seems to me to be a scam; their URL registration > makes them look dodgy, they've hit Craigslist lists all over the > country, the domain for their contacts takes you to another site that > looks similar, which shares an address with yet another site that looks > similar... and judging by what you say, they're not responsive enough to > be actually looking to place people. i wouldn't expect anything good > from them. > > finding work as a Graphic Artist is weird; i feel for you. i know a > very few who actually *do* make a living at it (and many more that try), > and most of their contacts come from existing contacts who they've made > through a variety of strange ways; none of them conventionally. problem > is, it seems most every kid with a computer program thinks they can do > it, and most of the work going to independents goes at 'kid-rate'. most > truly large companies now that are willing to spend on it deal only with > other large companies (that often only pay the actual artists slightly > better than 'kid rate', and the work is sporadic. pay generally sucks > (by my standards) because it seems there are so many people that think > they can do it and are willing to do it for so little thinking there's a > "Big Break" for them at the end of a rainbow somewhere). > know that you're looking for good pay for a job that most people > that hold the purse strings aren't hot to pay well for, since they all > think there's nothing to it because of what they see their kids doing on > their computers. in the meantime, know that good things come to those > who wait as long as those who wait worketh like hell while they wait, > and build yourself a standout portfolio to put out in front of everyone > that you can think of that might ever need you, or know someone who does. > be prepared to wait a while (or maybe forever) for that Dream Job, > and figure out what you're going to do for a living in the meantime. ;-) > > > cheers! > e > > > Zoltan Finks wrote: > > Hate to admit it, but this list seems a great source for > > everything-savvy-folks. > > I've been fruitlessly job searching for some time now and I found an ad > on > > Craigslist seeking a graphic artist. > > > > I go ahead and follow the link and it's a website called "employee > > sources": http://employeesources.com/ > > > > Most of the listings seem to good to be true in terms of their > requirements > > and compensation, and in terms of their enthusiasm. What do I have to > lose? > > I apply. > > > > But in the app. process, questions are asked like what is my cel phone > > carrier, and how do I feel my credit is. And several opportunities are > given > > to check boxes to request information to be sent to me on things like > buying > > insurance and starting a business and improving my credit. > > > > I got a text message today - the day after applying - giving me a phone > > number to call regarding my application. I call and it simply tells me > to > > log into the website and confirm my contact information, after which my > app. > > will be further processed. > > > > Now this could be a legit headhunting type operation that happens to > solicit > > the applicants. - or - The whole thing could be a scam to collect > personal > > information. > > > > BTW nothing was asked in terms of my social or bank acct numbers or > > anything. They just have both our phone numbers now, so we'll be > watching > > for telemarketing calls to begin on our cel phones. > > > > Brian > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
