How much of that "respect" is due to the press keeping his (and his 
brothers') activities quiet and out of the public eye, and a good PR 
effort to present them well?  The WH press all knew what was going on 
and chose not to report it for whatever reasons.  If anything, morality 
among the general populace was probably a bit more settled then than 
today or 16 yr ago, so that knowing JFK was a total horndog, addicted to 
drugs of various sorts due to his back problems, would probably have 
tarnished that Camelot thing a bit.  Bobby was not any better, and 
Teddy, well, we all know about him.  The old man Joe's story was kept 
pretty quiet until much later.  That whole crowd, the males anyway, that 
descended from him was pretty much in his image in one way or other.  
Their women folk have suffered greatly for it, another aspect of their 
"characters."

--R

R A Bennell wrote:
> However, few would deny that John and Jackie Kennedy are among the most 
> respected whitehouse couples and the
> evidence now indicates he wasn't really much different than Bill. Just a 
> different time and less respect from the
> press. Others have done similar - Bill just got caught and exposed.
>
> Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:23 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
>
>
> Well I know if mine came unzipped I would not have the need, ability, or
> interest to unzip it again as the necessary means to carry through would
> be severely compromised.  But, yes, personal responsibility is the key,
> and enforcement when it doesn't work, if it is important to the couple.
> There is also that little aspect that as president, everyone involved
> has a responsibility to live up to the honor of the office.  In their
> case, it doesn't seem like fidelity and honor toward one another is a
> factor.  Makes me wonder how someone(s) like that could have
> honor/respect in the office and respect to the American people they
> represent, but I think the answer to that is clear.
>
> In the Bill and Hill case, it was ongoing, so yeah, I think it was her
> responsibility to make sure it did not happen again and again and again
> when he was incapable of behaving responsibly, if for no other reason
> than family honor or consideration of their child, even if it wasn't his.
>
> And yes I think it is a spouse's job to keep the other from straying, by
> daily actions and behavior toward one another, not necessarily by
> constant oversight unless you got a Bill type to cover.  You really have
> to work at it every day, and sometimes it is hard work to do so.
>
> --R
>
> Bill R wrote:
>   
>> Interesting that you feel it is your wife's job to keep your pants zipped.  
>> Is it also your job to keep her from
>>     
> other men?  I always liked the idea of personal responsibility myself.
>   
>> BillR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: 4/4/08 2:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Doctors, Gun owners, Lawyers and Why I drive an MB
>>
>> Hillary did a great job of keeping things (i.e., Slick's zipper) in the
>> White House under control, I'm sure she will be able to run govt health
>> care, when she is not dodging sniper fire.
>>
>> --R
>>
>> Rory wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> In case you may have not noticed, the government already runs one
>>> health care organization, VA Anyone?  Since they do such a stellar job
>>> with that oe, I'm sure they can handle the rest of the population.
>>>
>>> "US Government health care, combining all the efficiency of the US
>>> Government, with all the compassion of the IRS!)
>>>
>>> Not ME!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> If you think things are bad now, wait until all the doctors are
>>>> government employees.
>>>>
>>>> Allan
>>>> --
>>>> 1983 300D
>>>>
>>>> "Bill R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Not intentional I am sure, but errors from fatigue, guessing about the
>>>>> correct medication rather than looking it up, incorrect diagnosis, a slip
>>>>> during surgery - yes to those.  I don't think that I would feel much
>>>>> better if I lost my spouse or a child to a medical mistake rather than a 
>>>>> bullet.
>>>>> In fact, given the lingering death some medical errors cause, in some
>>>>> cases the bullet could be better.  All things being equal [meaning you 
>>>>> lose a
>>>>> loved one] errors vs evil intent might be easier to live with, might not.
>>>>> BillR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
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