YOU DID IT WRONG!!!!

I see no mention of a beer involved in the process.

--R

OK Don wrote:
> I finally broke down and built Wilton's oil sucker - the "new" 300D
> 2.5 has the pan under the engine, and I didn't want to mess with it to
> change the oil. Went to Ace and bought 5 feet of 5/8" OD, 3/8" ID
> fabric reinforced tubing (now $1.59 a foot), drilled a hole in the top
> (behind the handle) of a 5 gal. plastic fuel can with a counter sink
> bit. The bit was 5/8" dia. - worked great for the tubing. The tubing
> fit the dip stick tube (inside) just right. Wrapped a bit of black
> tape around the end of an old (OLD) tank vacuum hose so it fit the
> pouring spout connection, and went to work. The plastic fuel tank
> collapsed right away, but the oil also started flowing, so I let it
> come. I stopped sucking every once in a awhile to check the level.
> When I had about a gallon out (lucky guess), I poured it into a gallon
> bottle, and went back to sucking - getting the last almost gallon out
> of the engine. Seems that even the drastically collapsed fuel tank
> holds at least a gallon, so this rig will work until I find a better
> tank to use.
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:42 PM, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> HOMEMADE /$2 TOPSIDER/OIL SUCKER
>>
>>  (This method of oil removal by suction works only if oil dipstick tube goes
>>  to lowest point in oil pan, as in a Mercedes.  Oil below bottom of dipstick
>>  tube can't be removed by this method without sticking an oil evacuation tube
>>  down the dipstick tube to bottom of the oil pan.  Mercedes engines since the
>>  60's have been built with dipstick tubes to lowest point in the pan,
>>  specifically, to expedite removal of oil by suction.  I don't know if
>>  dipstick tubes in other engines go to bottom of the pan.)
>>
>>  EQUIPMENT/PARTS:
>>
>>  1.  Vacuum cleaner (shop or domestic unit) with ITS hose
>>
>>  2.  5 gal plastic joint compound or detergent bucket (or appropriate size
>>  container strong enough not to collapse under vacuum cleaner suction)
>>
>>  3.  ~ 5 feet of 5/8 inch OD plastic tubing with some fabric in the walls to
>>  help it resist collapsing due to suction and heat from the oil
>>
>>  CONSTRUCTION:
>>
>>  1.  Near the outer edge of the bucket's plastic top, cut a small hole
>>  slightly smaller than the 5/8 inch tube.  Insert end of 5/8 inch tube snugly
>>  into this hole - NOT to the bottom of the bucket - only an inch or so into
>>  the top - enough to stay securely in place.  (If the discharge end of the
>>  evacuation tube is below the oil level in the bucket, much bubbling and
>>  turbulence will occur in the oil when most of the oil has been removed from
>>  the engine, and the sucker sucks air.  The turbulence may cause oil to be
>>  spattered near and drawn into the vac hose.)
>>
>>  2.  Near the opposite edge of the bucket's top from the 5/8 inch tube, cut a
>>  hole slightly smaller than the suction end of the vac cleaner hose.  Insert
>>  suction end of the vac cleaner hose snugly into this hole - NOT way down in
>>  the bucket - just past the top enough to stay securely in place.
>>
>>  3.  Insert other end of 5/8 inch OD plastic tube snugly INTO TOP inch and a
>>  half or so of engine oil dipstick tube.  (If you feel more comfortable by
>>  wrapping a bit of tape around the plastic tube to increase its size and make
>>  it fit more snugly INSIDE the dipstick tube, please do so.)
>>
>>  4.  Attach other end of vac hose to the vac cleaner.
>>
>>  UP-GRADED, FIRST CLASS UNIT:
>>
>>  In lieu of plastic joint compound or detergent bucket, use 5 gal. kerosene,
>>  gasoline or other appropriate metal or plastic can with built-in pouring
>>  spout and filler opening.
>>
>>  1.  Insert suction end of vac cleaner hose snugly into the can's pouring
>>  spout.
>>
>>  2.  Insert/install end of 5/8 inch oil removal tube in the can's other
>>  opening.  (I used PVC couplings/fittings of appropriate sizes to adapt
>>  filler opening for the 5/8 inch tube.  I also used a short section of 1½
>>  inch dia. PVC, installed with slight downward slope inside the top of the
>>  can to discharge the oil across the can as far as possible from the
>>  suction/vac opening.  The 1½ inch PVC pipe inside the can also causes the
>>  air being removed from the engine after the siphoning action is broken to
>>  slow down enough to "release" small droplets of oil that may be suspended in
>>  it.)
>>  Insert suction end of this tube into top of dipstick tube.
>>
>>  OIL REMOVAL:
>>
>>  1.  Have engine at or near operating temp.
>>
>>  2. Loosen top of oil filter canister & lift it ½ inch or so to allow oil to
>>  run freely out of canister down into oil pan when vac starts.
>>
>>  3.  Turn vac cleaner ON.
>>
>>  4.  Change filter while oil flows into the receiver.  (I can't get mine
>>  changed before the oil removal is finished.)
>>
>>  5.  When satisfied that oil removal is complete/sufficient, lift end of 5/8
>>  inch tube out of dipstick tube.  (Turn end of tube upward and lift it upward
>>  to aid flow of any oil in the tube into the bucket.)
>>
>>  6.  Turn vac cleaner OFF.
>>
>>  7.  Don't forget to replenish oil in the engine!
>>
>>  8.  Clean up - stow equipment.
>>
>>  I have used this type sucker several times with excellent results.  The
>>  difference between a "troubled" oil change and a very clean and quick oil
>>  change is the strength (resistance to collapse) of the oil evacuation tube.
>>  Collapse of this tube can prevent the flow of anything - air, oil,
>>  ANYTHING - into the bucket and can lead to the bucket's collapse if a "weak"
>>  container is used.
>>
>>  My upgraded, first class sucker uses a metal kerosene can as the oil
>>  receiver, but I have used a joint compound bucket as the oil receiver
>>  several times with equal success.  Because of the permanently enclosed top
>>  and pouring spout, the kerosene can makes dumping the oil much cleaner and
>>  easier, though - never have to touch the oil, and don't have the trouble of
>>  removing the top from a plastic container.
>>
>>  Use 5/8 inch OD plastic tubing with some fabric in the walls to help it
>>  resist collapsing due to suction and heat from the oil.  The clear, limber,
>>  plastic tubing is too weak - collapses easily.
>>
>>  Loosen top of oil filter canister & lift it a half inch or so to allow oil
>>  to run freely out of canister down into oil pan when vac starts.
>>
>>  Using the sucker has several advantages for me.  The typical ones:  not
>>  having to crawl under the car to get to the pan plug, not having to remove
>>  the belly pan on the 350SDL, not getting oil on me nor anything else,
>>  removal of more oil than by draining, ease of used oil disposal
>>  Additionally, because of my peripheral neuropathy, leading to loss of
>>  feeling and function in hands and fingers, it is very hard for me to handle
>>  small items such as nuts, bolts, etc.  It is especially hard for me to put
>>  the slippery pan plug back in place.  So far, by using the sucker to remove
>>  the oil and wearing rubber gloves while changing the filter, I could change
>>  my oil while wearing a tux.
>>
>>  To confirm the effectiveness of my homemade oil sucker, a couple of times,
>>  after the sucker has  "finished", I have removed the drain plug from the oil
>>  pan to see how much more oil may still have been in the pan.  NO oil came
>>  out of the drain hole - NOT A DROP.  With the drain method of oil removal, I
>>  have NEVER re-installed the drain plug without oil continuing to drip from
>>  the drain hole.  Conclusion:  THE SUCKER REMOVES MORE OIL THAN THE DRAIN
>>  METHOD, unless the vehicle is tilted to cause oil to collect away from the
>>  dipstick tube.
>>
>>  Build it, and use it at your OWN risk.  Mine works fine for me - don't know
>>  about yours - I don't have control of it.  Don't forget:  atmospheric
>>  pressure = 14.7 PSI, and "physics will win every time."  IF YOU BLOCK THE
>>  OIL EVACUATION TUBE SO THAT NOTHING CAN FLOW INTO THE RECEIVER CONTAINER AND
>>  YOU CONTINUE TO PULL A VACUUM ON THE CONTAINER, THE CONTAINER WILL COLLAPSE.
>>
>>  You don't need to create a true VACUUM in the oil receiver container.  The
>>  vacuum cleaner is used to merely REDUCE pressure in the container so that
>>  atmospheric pressure can push (SIPHON) the oil out of the engine into the
>>  container.  The vacuum cleaner is not meant to create a VACUUM in the
>>  container.  If you create a true VACUUM in the container, the 14.7 pounds of
>>  atmospheric pressure on every square inch of the container exterior WILL
>>  COLLAPSE the container unless, of course, it is strong enough to withstand
>>  that pressure.  Such a pressure vessel is not really needed to safely and
>>  cleanly suck oil out of the engine.  A plastic joint compound bucket CAN do
>>  it very nicely -- just don't create a true VACUUM in the bucket.
>>
>>  Wilton
>>
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