Emrecan Dogan wrote: > One of my computers is assigned to run factoring tests > continuously. I saw that my that computer's last two results > were "no factor up to 2^67" . Then i checked the "cleared > exponents list" on the primenet webpage. There were no trace of > my exponents
That's because the Cleared Exponents Report includes only exponents that have been "cleared" from being Mersenne prime candidates because they've been proved to be composite. The two ways of proving a Mersenne number composite are (1) find a factor, or (2) complete a Lucas-Lehmer test with a nonzero residue. (Both first-time L-L tests and doublechecks are included in the report.) Exponents (such as your two) for which factoring has been attempted but no factor has yet been found nor any L-L test completed are not yet "cleared", so don't appear in the Cleared Exponents Report. > but i saw many factored exponents with a factor bound to 2^101, > 2^71, 2^68, 2^86 and so on. Factoring assignments handed out by PrimeNet currently are only for the so-called "trial factoring" method. Other factoring methods (such as "P-1" and "ECM") exist and can be invoked by appropriate commands in the worktodo.ini file even though PrimeNet doesn't yet assign them separately. (P-1 factoring, if not previously performed on the exponent, is now automatically performed at the beginning of an L-L assignment). However, when Prime95 was first written, the only factoring method it incorporated was trial factoring, and most messages, documentation and reports said just "factoring" without specifying "trial factoring". When the P-1 and ECM factoring methods were added to Prime95, the program's existing messages and reports weren't modified to identify the specific factoring method in use. When the Cleared Exponents Report shows a 101-bit factor, that's not because trial factoring up to 2^101 was performed -- it's because P-1 or ECM factoring found that factor. The P-1 and ECM methods don't search for factors in the same way as trial factoring searches. Their search bounds are not expressed as being "up to 2^86" (or whatever), and they are capable of finding factors much larger than any feasible trial factoring run can find. The report doesn't specify which factoring method was used to find a reported factor, and it doesn't specify the search bounds used -- the bits listed are the size of the factor, not the bound to which the factor search was performed. > What is the criteria that an exponent will be tested up to which > power? Although factoring could be performed to very high limits, the probability of finding a factor does not increase as fast as the time spent in searching for one. For each exponent, there is a balance point below which it is most efficient (for maximizing GIMPS throughput in determining whether Mersenne numbers are prime) to search for a factor before L-L testing, but above which it is more efficient (in terms of determining primality) to perform the L-L test instead of continuing a factor search. Currently, Prime95 uses the following default limits for trial factoring: Exponent range Trial factored to ----------------- ----------------- 0- 1480000 2^56 1480000- 1930000 2^57 1930000- 2360000 2^58 2360000- 2950000 2^59 2950000- 3960000 2^60 3960000- 5160000 2^61 5160000- 6515000 2^62 6515000- 8250000 2^63 8250000-13380000 2^64 13380000-17890000 2^65 17890000-21590000 2^66 21590000-28130000 2^67 28130000-35200000 2^68 35200000-44150000 2^69 44150000-57020000 2^70 57020000-71000000 2^71 71000000-79300000 2^72 > What must i do if i want to continue testing my exponent above > 2^67. Any further trial factoring above 2^67 will be less efficient, from an overall GIMPS throughput perspective, in determining whether that Mersenne number is prime than simply switching to the L-L test. You'll help GIMPS's progress most by sticking to the program-assigned factoring limit. Also, you can't continue trial factoring above 2^67 on your exponent unless you give up using PrimeNet for assignments. If you still really, really want to do it, then read all the documentation files that came with your Prime95 software. The answer's in there somewhere, sort of. I won't spell it out here. Richard Woods _________________________________________________________________________ Unsubscribe & list info -- http://www.ndatech.com/mersenne/signup.htm Mersenne Prime FAQ -- http://www.tasam.com/~lrwiman/FAQ-mers