Sorry for the delay. I've been away during the Easter.

On 02/04/15 19:02, Matt Turner wrote:
On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Jose Fonseca <jfons...@vmware.com> wrote:
These were being defined in SCons, but it's not practical -- we actually
need to include Gallium headers from external source trees, with
completely disjoint build infrastructure, and it's unsustainable to
replicate the HAVE_xxx checks or even hard-coded defines across
everywhere.

To confirm, you're building external sources with gcc? I don't think
these macros are useful for MSVC.

Correct.


No actual change in behavior for autoconf.
---
  configure.ac         |  2 +-
  include/c99_compat.h | 45 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  scons/gallium.py     | 27 ---------------------------
  src/util/macros.h    |  2 ++
  4 files changed, 48 insertions(+), 28 deletions(-)

diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac
index 520cc22..1485bba 100644
--- a/configure.ac
+++ b/configure.ac
@@ -230,7 +230,7 @@ _SAVE_LDFLAGS="$LDFLAGS"
  _SAVE_CPPFLAGS="$CPPFLAGS"

  dnl Compiler macros
-DEFINES=""
+DEFINES="-DHAVE_AUTOCONF"
  AC_SUBST([DEFINES])
  case "$host_os" in
  linux*|*-gnu*|gnu*)
diff --git a/include/c99_compat.h b/include/c99_compat.h
index 4fc91bc..62ccd46 100644
--- a/include/c99_compat.h
+++ b/include/c99_compat.h

c99_compat.h doesn't seem like the right location. I know it seems
like a nice place to add this since it's included everywhere, but I
worry that in a few years we're going to be cleaning it up like we've
been doing with compiler.h and friends.

I might make a separate header to define these? Not sure.

I can move the defines out of c99_compat.h , e.g., mesa/include/fallbackconfig.h.

But I'd prefer to include fallbackconfig.h out of c99_compat.h , as c99_compat.h is pretty much guaranteed to be included all the time.


> Since
> probably all cases of #ifdef HAVE___* have a fallback, that runs the
> risk of never noticing that you weren't including the right header.

Precisely, this is all the more reason why it must be included from a header that's included all the time. If it depends on people to add the include on a case-by-case it is bound to fail, as nobody else but us cares, and it will easily go unnoticed.


@@ -141,4 +141,49 @@ test_c99_compat_h(const void * restrict a,
  #endif


+
+/* Fallback definitions, for when these headers are used by build systems which
+ * don't auto-detect these things.*/
+#ifndef HAVE_AUTOCONF

I'd rather flip this condition around and not modify configure.ac. But
maybe you can't do that because you're not actually building
everything with scons?

No biggie either way.

I don't know. This seems nuts. I really don't like adding stuff to the
autotools build system like this.

Sure.


I really don't know how to deal with this. What I'm hearing is that
even the custom scons build system you guys use isn't sufficient for
your own needs. You're not building the external source trees with the
same build system...?

I think you might be getting the wrong idea.

We don't build the .C files from external source trees. But we do need to include .h files, so we can interface with components in Mesa tree.

That is, I only need the .h files to make sense on their own (with Mesa components, namely mesa/src/gallium/include, and gallium auxiliary libraries). But we have so many inlines functions, so many #ifdef HAVE_foo, that unless all the defines match precisely, the whole hell breaks loose.


Gallium has from the start been integrated (ie. embedded) on a myriad of places. It was always meant as a framework to write any sort of 3d driver, not just OpenGL drivers. Things were much worse when Gallium was used on Windows XP kernel land or Windows CE. I'm glad that I or anybody else has to deal with the quirkiness of keeping code portable across these platforms. Things are still much more uniform nowadays.


I mean, in all the build system work I've done I've tried to make sure
scons continues working -- doing things like adding these HAVE_*
definitions to it and such. It's kind of frustrating, and it's even
more frustrating when even that isn't sufficient.


All I'm doing here is basically move your defines out of scons's python files into C headers. Conceptually it's doing pretty much the same thing as before, but being in a header that means that it's there for all build systems to take.


Rembember that Mesa itself is not just autoconf and Scons, there's also Android build system.

I don't like it any more you do, but this is the world we live in: the fact is that many platforms constraint how software must be built to a point which is impracticable/impossible to build. Even if a build system that meets everybody needs existed, we'd still face the legacy of existing software using other build systems.



To be honest, IMHO, Mesa source tree and build systems are a failure if they can't even sustain external interfaces.


For many drivers, the external interface headers are Khronos OpenGL / GLES headers. But for gallium drivers, the interface is mesa/src/gallium/include (plus some .h from helper modules in src/gallium/auxiliary as it is impractical to interface with gallium drivers without them.)


What would you say in a parallel reality, Khronos demanded that in order to build OpenGL drivers for Linux one would need to use the Khronos own build system? Because that's basically what's at stake here: if I want to interface with gallium and llvmpipe driver should I be forced to build my code with Mesa build system?


So I only see three ways of dealing with this:

a) have fallback HAVE_* foo from the headers (so that all inline functions compile the same way) as I propose in this patch

b) move all inline functions to separate headers (so that external code can opt-out from including them), and provide alternative non-inline implementations (so that external code can still call them)

c) stop using inline functions altogether



One way or the other, we'll need the headers to make sense on their own, without having to duplicate the whole Mesa build-systems. But b) and c) can have performance impact. (Particularly because we really want to inline atomic reference counting.)



Jose
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