jbv wrote:
> 
> Sjoerd Op 't Land a écrit:
> 
> > jbv wrote/ schreef:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > Has anyone already tried to read raw data
> > > on the Mac modem / printer port ?
> > >
> > > Does the following script work :
> > >
> > > open modem:
> > > read from modem:
> > > close modem:
> > Guess it should be "file modem:" instead of "modem:", but then, it should
> > work.
> >
> 
> Thanks for the tip, but I already found the info in the Revolution
> help...
> 
> Actually, since I downloaded the Revolution beta a week ago,
> I'm always using the Rev help when I script with MC...
> I must confess that the Revolution environnement and help are
> much much better done & attractive (with more details and more
> examples) than the MC ones...
> 
> At the risk of being considered as rude & abrasive, I'd like to
> report a small anecdote : we have a few students / trainees at the
> office right now and these youngsters are very deep into Linux,
> C, C++, PHP etc. I spent the last few days trying to introduce
> them to MC but was unable to keep them more than 30 secs on
> the MC website (and I won't mention that after downloading MC,
> running the demo and opening a couple of scripts they threw the
> whole package to the trashcan). They just considered that "it's just
> another scripting language"...

Feel sorry for you to have to spend time with young morons. Chalenge
them to write a functional application with GUI and all that in
C,C++,PHP and whatever they heard of,  and time them. Then write the
same thing in MC and compare.

> The main reason is that the whole environment (and especially
> the demo) really s*ck !!! (again I apologize for the comments,
> but they weren't mine).
> Revolution looks slicker & more attractive, and I was able to
> have those students spend more time on it.
> 
> I'm not sure I fully understand the connection between MC and
> Revolution... Is it an attempt to re-furbish the MC environment in
> order to make it more attractive for Hypercard users ?
> I must confess that I don't fully understand the reason of having
> 2 separate products with almost the same fonctionalities, the
> same licensing price, etc...

The core is the MC engine. MC development environment and Revolution are
some examples of what you can write with that engine (of course you
could just use the command line) and they reflect 2 markets: developers
who need a tool to make something with it and developers who need a tool
to look at it and wonder. The later ones as your anecdote proves, are
the more numerous; what they can show at the end of the day is a
different matter.
 That's not to say that I don't have high regards for Revolution which
is in itself probably the most complex application I've seen made with
MC. I doubt though that it will stimulate the genius in the user more
then vanilla MC.

> 
> Just a couple of naive questions from a dumb end-user...
> 
> JB
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