Ken, Chipp, Richard, Dan, alles, (2nd rewrite)
I do want to share this TAOO plugin with you - that's all i've been trying to do... I hope you see better what i try to "push" as a better toaster but no one is forced to try. Im really grateful for the past remarks you have shared. I certainly hope not to waste your time. It's up to you to see the benefits that warant the research into TAOO... Im convinced it's the best economic path for user/ide/application/control/objects/gui interfacing in a one easy to script or design application. If i told you i rewrote a OS for xtalk object's I/O and GUI in a xtalk environment, would you believe me? That i can simulate or emulate almost anything, any language with it, would you believe me? It can but it's still in the air - not integrated... Does that tell you more than the globally incremental persistent knowledge management development and object-GUI framework i've presented so far? Add business objects (pie charts for example), add clients... Vaporware? I dont think so... But I've proven the components work... As a developper, i prefer to leave your imagination opened for your usage of something like TAOO than restrict the capabilities of what TAOO can do... That should be obvious but i need to state it as a requirement goal for me... Obviously this is regarded as a vaguedly feature in my presentation of TAOO. While it's ambiguous scope is where TAOO gets it's power from... Yesterday i opened an architecture (building not computer) book. Chapter "Form and Space" is what i was interested in... what can i learn to improve the layout management of GUIs in TAOO? There's a foreword taken from the "TAO Te Ching" - the main work in Taoist phylosophy written 600BC by Lao Tsu (or "Lao Tse" as pronounced). "We put thirty spokes together and call it a wheel. But it is on the space where there is nothing that the utility of the wheel depends. We turn clay to make a vessel. But it is on the space where there is nothing that the utility of the vessel depends. We pierce doors and windows to make a house and it is on these spaces where there is nothing that the utility of the house depends. Therefore, just as we take advantage of what is, we should recognize the utility of what is not." Lao Tse Surprised i was to see this already built in my way of working in TAOO in scripting form... The emptyness is where you can add your functions... And in this cyber environment, space is virtually empty! In two weeks, i'll be controlling a "corporate sized advanced directory infrastructure" with TAOO at work (10 thousand objects of different types (servers, drives, io, cpu perfs, users, groups, events, services, shares, backups, etc) - over a DOS box or the msg box the same! That's how im going to port TAOO to VBS... I know how thanks to TAOO's "logical phylosophy" of objects control because it works anywhere i put it in. It's scalable, it's convertible, distributed, reliable, extensible, redundant, clusterizeable = Enterprise stuff requirements! Python and php after that should be so easy... Maybe I plan too far ahead - but that's how you plan how solid your foundations should be... Aim the clouds to reach the mountain top... Whereas the Rev IDE takes a lot of the extra lower-end benefits of TAOO, I was only too sadenned not to be able to leverage their GM in TAOO. Today, TAOO offers more GM features and a better GM in MC as well with all the benefits without the Rev IDE interference. And it's far easier to augment by anyone... If we all share the addons, in 3 months, the thing is not just rock solid, it's diamond hard quality! But keeping compatibility with both Rev and MC is a goal. I dont try to release bugs. Im humiliated each time and have tried hard not to release more since a year or so - not without warning - for the daring? No... For those willing to help release more and better - have you seen bugs in the breakpointsNavigator, XOS documentation (except the corrupted file not long ago)? Anyway, i invite you to try the whole thing if you dare waste a big of your time in favor for a fresh object-oriented alternative. I know i cant teach old dogs new tricks - but you know how the curiosity is the mother of progress... Rome wasn't cabled in one day by one man either ;) The day i finish the formal "modeling" of the TAOO environment i might sell it if no one is interested. On the other hand, you could be well rewarded if this works as a collaboration. This i can't push on to you. It's up to you to see the interest in such a "technical" tool that makes the technical work "simple". New demos of the wheel to come soon... Promissed... cheers Xavier _______________________________________________ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard