Ken Ray wrote:
>Bob, are you using the "straight" version of Ubuntu Breezy Badger, or
are you using Kubuntu? Just curious...
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Yes, the straight version with the Gnome interface. Being the first
produced, it is more stable than the KDE version, and anyway Kubuntu
looks too much like Windows, which puts me off because I have become
allergic to it.
Anyway, since yesterday when I was thinking of blaming Ubuntu, I have
discovered that it is probably not the case. Since Ubuntu is
Debian-based, I thought I would go to the horse's mouth by ripping out
my Ubuntu and installing Debian to see how MC behaved. That was a
disaster! It consists of 14 CDs with no description as to how many of
them are really necessary for a basic graphical installation. So I tried
downloading a minimal version that was more minimal than I expected: no
graphical interface at all! Anyway, I managed to discover how to extend
it with the X-Window system, but the hardware options to be chosen
during the process were so technical that I did not succeed in getting
it to work.
I then decided to install the latest Beta version of Ubuntu Dapper Drake
(due for final release next month). Boy, was that smooth! VERY nice!
When I tried MC in it, it didn't run. However, after re-booting the
system, it did run. The result was exactly the same as I had experienced
with Breezy: problems when minimizing windows.
So then I had the idea of running the Brazilian Linux called "Kurumin"
(KDE) from the Live CD (i.e. without installing anything on the HD).
This is also a Debian-based distro. MC ran perfectly, but the same
difficulty of minimizing windows occurred.
With this experience, I can now tell you more precisely what happens in
MC, and it is exactly the same under the 3 Debian-based distros (using
both Gnome and KDE interfaces)I have tried:
1) If you minimize the PROPERTIES BOX or the MESSAGE BOX, everything
disappears from the screen, and you are left with an icon for the Menu
Bar only in the task bar at the bottom.
2) There is no way of restoring anything except the Menu Bar.
3) The above is not intermittent, but guaranteed every time.
Of course, the practical solution would be to minimize nothing at all,
but this is not very practical really because one window gets put on top
of another, and since in some cases a window cannot be dragged, the only
thing you can do is resize it until it is small enough to reveal the
windows underneath.
Bob
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