thanks for sharing!

that is all great news. I think we're having an impact.

we have some really nice cooperation going between MirrorBrain +
Metalink + aria2 & other metalink clients.

it's really nice w/ aria2 because it can share the files over
bittorrent even if it's been a download from mirrors or
mirrors+torrent. then we also have the signatures for openSUSE
downloads included in the metalinks.

where do we go from here? :)

a late merry Christmas & happy holidays to everyone...


On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Peter Poeml <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> last week, openSUSE 11.1 was released, shortly after I published
> http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/12/16/best-way-to-download-opensuse/
> That posting really helped to get some users to try out a download by
> metalink. And I read only very good feedback on mailing lists and IRC,
> some of it I have collected here:
>
> I have collected some quotes from users from mailing lists and IRC:
>
> |> 15:38 < aa> downloading with aria2c for the first time
> |> 15:38 < bbb> ccccc:   but dddd wants us to hit the 200TB mark!  :-)
> |> 15:39 < dddd> hehe
> |> 15:39 < bbb> and it just went down even further.  It's crawling now.   
> dddd, what have you done?
> |> 15:39 < ccccc> bbb: download 2-3 DVDs!
> |> 15:39 < ccccc> why stop when you can download even more
>
> <snip>
>
> |> 15:46  * aa downloads with area2c and reaches 1300kbit/s !!!!
> |> 15:47 < dddd> aa: you have only a 10mbit line? :-)
> |> 15:52 < ccccc> wow, aria2 is really able to saturate my line
> |> 15:53 < ccccc> can it output more details where it downloads from?
> |> 15:55 < ccccc> I don't understand its progress. It goes to 100% and then 
> starts from scratch
> |> 15:56 < eee> Im trying aria2 and it was quite useful
> |> 15:56 < eee> I tried to ssh to another box and download with ftp, well, 
> server is busy
> |> 15:57 < eee> Connected to download.opensuse.org
> |> 15:57 < eee> 500 This server is busy, please try again later or any of my 
> mirrors :-)
> |> 15:57 < bbb> I guess dddd beat his 200TB goal then  :-)
> |> 15:59 < ccccc> download.o.o doesn't look busy
> |> 16:00 < eee> ccccc:did you try with ftp ?
> |> 16:00 < ccccc> eee: you shouldn't, the ftp server always returns 500
> |> 16:00 < ccccc> you should use http
>
> <snip>
>
> |> 16:13 < ffffff> ok i bow my head in awe of aria2 450KiBs vs 56KiBs for 
> straight http
> |> 16:13 < ggggggg> people could also just use torrent
> |> 16:14 < ccccc> ggggggg: they don't reach the bandwidth you get with akamai
> |> 16:14 < ggggggg> ccccc: if nobody uses torrent we cant speed up of course.
> |> 16:14 < ccccc> at least I have 180K with torrent and 570K with http
> |> 16:15 < hhhhhhhh> too few high speed mirrors seeding :-)
> |> 16:15 < ccccc> hhhhhhhh: too few seeders for too many leechers at least
> |> 16:16 < hhhhhhhh> yup.. so remember to seed via bittorrent when y'all are 
> done with your fancy speedy downloads ;-)
> |> 16:16 < bbb> hhhhhhhh:   do you get a commission for each seed?  :-)
> |> 16:19 < hhhhhhhh> I get closer to my goal of world domination with every 
> completed download >:-)
> |> 16:19 < mirrorbrain> ccccc: a very verbose log with -l aria2c.log
> |> 16:19 < mirrorbrain> ccccc: its probably easier to see that it does with 
> "netstat -tupa | grep aria"
> |> 16:19 < mirrorbrain> ccccc: the first "count to 100%" is file allocation 
> only
> |> 16:21 < ccccc> mirrorbrain: the authors haven't heared of fseek and write 
> the 4G byte by byte? :)
> |> 16:22 < mirrorbrain> ccccc: the author has, but there is a reason, which 
> is related to fragmentation on the disk
> |> 16:22 < mirrorbrain> ccccc: it can be switched off though. But the default 
> seems to better like that, in most cases
>
> <snip>
>
> |> 6:46 < iiiiiiiii> Usually, it takes me 2-3 days to get one.  I am shocked 
> I have it already.  The US mirrors are the best ever.
> |> 16:46 < iiiiiiiii> thanks
>
> <snip>
>
> |> I just want to say... wow, the downloads seem to have gone off
> |> smoothly.  I had no issues at all with downloading the 11.1 release.
> |> It came in very fast using the Metalink thing.  I have to tip my hat
> |> to the infrastructure guys and say well done!
> |> C.
>
> <snip>
>
> In a Russian linux user forum, there was a poll for the used download
> method. (Small number of participants, around 30 or 40 I think.)
> Metalinks were the most frequently used download method there, a bit
> ahead of BitTorrent.
> http://linuxforum.ru/index.php?showtopic=82321
> The page seems to be unavailable right now.
>
>
>
>
> A user reporting success with aria2 used by the backend of the openSUSE
> download client, downloading packages:
> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458897#c6
> |> Hi Peter,
> |>
> |> I've just updated to openSuse 11.1, and neither of the Thai mirrors have
> |> mirrored the repos yet. So, I'll have to wait a bit before trying the
> |> experiments promised above.
> |>
> |> In the meantime, I can tell you that the prototype, using aria2 as a 
> backend
> |> for zypper and yast2, certainly seems to solve this bug for openSuse 11.1.
> |>
> |> I got good, though not fantastic, speed and more importantly, no timeouts, 
> from
> |> the kde4.2 unstable repo.
> |>
> |> I don't know which mirrors aria2 assigned for the kde4 unstable repo (roll 
> on
> |> 11.2!) but I searched around manually for one, and couldn't find anything
> |> nearby. So without the aria2 backend, I would have been stuck with kde 4.1.
> |>
> |> I'm going to try using the email address you gave for KU to "encourage" 
> them
> |> get the 11.1 repos mirrored. Do you happen to have an email address for
> |> mirror.in.th? I looked around the Burapha University site, but couldn't 
> find
> |> anything specific.
> |>
> |> Thanks
> |> Ian
>
> ...
>
> Isn't that great?
>
> Merry Christmas to everybody.
> Peter
> --
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>
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>



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