http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bryan-metalinkhttp updated

for anyone interested, you can try out Metalink in HTTP headers w/
Neil's bits from here:

http://metalinks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/metalinks/checker/
http://metalinks.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/metalinks/webconvert/
(Python script to convert .metalink to Apache directives)

On Sep 9, 3:31 am, "Neil M." <[email protected]> wrote:
> The HEAD request actually works well in my case and makes sense for
> any download application.  Metalink Checker is already performing a
> HEAD request to see if the MIME Type transparent content negotiation
> is implemented on the server.  I should be able to use this same HEAD
> request to grab LINK headers.  After that it proceeds with a normal
> GET in any case.
>
> For Metalink HTTP with lots of mirrors (openoffice.org, for example)
> that header is going to get really big with all those Link headers.
> This is particularly bad if you are doing lots of partial file GET
> requests (segmented downloads).   Is there a way that we can turn
> those on/off (whatever is inverse of default)?  Maybe they are only
> sent if the "Want-Digest" header is used?  The current RFC draft does
> not address this.  Maybe that is a comment for the draft RFC for the
> LINK header?
>
> On Aug 28, 3:59 pm, Bram Neijt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > Personally, I don't believe in HTTP headers as mirror descriptors. One
> > of the main reasons to use mirrors is to keep the load of the primary
> > server down. If you want to keep the load down, then you should not
> > send the whole file to every user you encounter, but to get the mirror
> > list the user will have to hit the link. One way would be to only
> > allow a HEAD request, but that seems idiotic to me because there is no
> > way to make sure people would only use the head request.
>
> > I've yet to come up with a problem this additional header complexity
> > would solve.
>
> > Bram
>
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Ant Bryan<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > here are my very rough ideas for Metalink in HTTP headers
>
> > >http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bryan-metalinkhttp-00.txt
>
> > > briefly, it's:
>
> > >  Link: <http://www2.example.com/example.ext>; rel="alternate";
> > >  Link: <ftp://ftp.example.com/example.ext>; rel="alternate";
> > >  Link: <http://example.com/example.ext.torrent>; rel="describedby";
> > >  type="torrent";
> > >  Link: <http://example.com/example.ext.asc>; rel="describedby";
> > >  type="application/pgp-signature";
> > >  Digest: SHA=thvDyvhfIqlvFe+A9MYgxAfm1q5=
>
> > > On Jul 28, 5:37 pm, Anthony Bryan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> this is similar to some of metalink's features, but done in HTTP headers.
>
> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >> From: Henrik Nordstrom <[email protected]>
> > >> Date: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:03 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: HTTP Extensions for Simultaneous Download from Multiple 
> > >> Mirrors
> > >> To: HTTP Working Group <[email protected]>
>
> > >> This draft made a bit of surprise appearance in the transport area
> > >> meeting today:
>
> > >>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ford-http-multi-server
>
> > >> My initial reaction is lots of obvious overlap with other work and
> > >> misunderstandings of basic HTTP functions like ETag.
>
> > >> Basic motivation behind the work may be reasonable however.
>
> > >> I will try to catch the author for a more in-depth discussion shortly.
>
> > >> Other opinions?
>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Henrik
>
> > >> --
> > >> (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [http://www.metalinker.org]
> > >>   )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads
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