Sorry to dig up an old post. I am interested in your formalization of this 
first chapter. Is it available somewhere . I could not identify it in your 
mathbox.

Sylvain

Le dimanche 14 juillet 2019 à 15:37:02 UTC, Benoit a écrit :

> As for using Bourbaki to help us in set.mm, I would strongly advocate 
> following the global architecture/sectioning as close as possible, barring 
> some necessities with computer checking that I have not thought of.  I am 
> not very happy with the current sectioning of set.mm, and a while ago, I 
> began to tweak a bit the order of the parts and sections (not actually in 
> set.mm, but in a draft), and the more it went, the closer it was to 
> Bourbaki's TOC.  The first six books of Bourbaki are very unified, and 
> there are no (or almost none?) forward references (except for the examples, 
> famously in between stars).  The TOC was well thought out by a group of top 
> mathematicians to emphasize the unity of mathematics and to permit a 
> systematic treatment of the fundamental structures (which, by the way, is 
> the title of this set of the first six books).  It would be hard to find a 
> better ordering of the sections.
>
> The biggest problem with Bourbaki is that it ignores categories (it uses 
> the less agile "espèces de structures" instead, which was nonetheless, as 
> FL wrote, historically significant, together with the mere fact of 
> "thinking structurally").  Category theory was developed in the 1940's 
> whereas Bourbaki began in the 1930's, and it would have been too much work 
> to make the change after the global architecture of the treatise had been 
> set.  But set.mm does not use categories either, so this is not a problem.
>
> By the way: I started a few months ago to try and formalize the first 
> chapter of the first book of Bourbaki (logic).  Indeed, it starts at a very 
> low level, more than most logic textbooks that I know of, and this fact was 
> very interesting to me.  While trying to adhere closer and closer to the 
> Bourbaki treatment (the things called "assemblages", etc.), I realized that 
> this was not very far from doing "metamath in metamath", and that one 
> should directly aim for this.  So I stopped my project, and I would be very 
> interested in hearing from Mario (or anyone) if the "metamath in metamath" 
> project is dormant, on its way, soon to be resurrected...
>
> Benoit
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 2:48:08 PM UTC+2, fl wrote:
>>
>>
>> >  or belonging to the sphere of influence of Germany (Banach) 
>>
>> I have just noticed that Banach wrote in French in Polish reviews. So 
>> much for the German influence.
>>
>>
>> http://pldml.icm.edu.pl/pldml/search/page.action?qt=SEARCH&q=c_0author_0eq.Banach*c_0language_0eq.all*sc.article*l_0*c_0fulltext_0eq.all
>>  
>> -- 
>> FL
>>
>

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