This is great stuff, Dean you have been drinking.
Bring it on, you talk here like you have lots of dirty information? Show is. NWA
482 for $900 gram! Lets see it, I am buying! Illegal meteorites, show me the
proof, or are you just talking out of your other end. Show me, how do you know
what papers I have or do not have eh? You pretend to know everything, run in
with the police? That is news to me. It would have been fin but never happend.
Enemies in Morocco? I dont htink so, Ive been there 13 times and never been
hassled yet. The moon rock? It is paid for, the seller got many thousands in
Commisions from both I and Jim. What he did with it is not my concern. You know
Amouri, he drank for months, not my problem. You say in your email that I never
broke any laws, then why do you say I illegally export meteorites? Get your
statements correct, then post them. Dean, I have NOTHING to hide, so I welcome
any and I mean ANY information you wish to place here.
I never attacked Bruno, we had arguments, but we
resolved them in person in Europe. We are not the best of friends but we see
that all are entitled to success or failure in this business. I leave him alone,
he leave me alone. No problems any more. Dean, I do not care what you do, I just
dont like your postings that say crap like "there isnt any more" "I have it all"
ETC ETC ETC. When I was just there and I know otherwise.
See ya in Tucson and patiently waiting some more
"Dirty" goods on myself here.
Mike Farmer
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:07
AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The
Moroccan CR2 meteorite
I guess that we are going to regularly get exposed to the Mike Farmer Pre
Tucson freak show every year now as he attacks other dealers buying NWA
meteorites. I guess that it will be a Tucson ritual from now on. I would like
to refer everybody to last years list archaives where he started attacking
Bruno and accusing him somehow interfering with his meteorite buying (Although
nobody has actually figured out how Bruno was doing this). Looks like you had
a problem at the airport once with your meteorites and accused Bruno of
causing problems for you with customs (Its in the list archaives - go
find them). Bruno was quite happy tp point out how to get the export permits
needed to legally export meteorites from Morocco. Unlike you, most other
people like Bruno are helpful. He willingly pointed out to you what
most sane business people would have done and did research on the local laws
where he was doing business before he lined up "investors". For everybodys
information Morocco has meteorite export laws. You need an export permit to
export meteorites from morocco. It is a day and a half process at the
moroccan ministry of mines to get one. But you never ever got one did you?
Thats right every one of your customers that you have sold NWA meteorites to
has an illegal meteorite. EVERY SINGLE METEORITE FROM NWA THAT YOU HAVE SOLD
TO YOUR CUSTOMERS WAS ILLEGALLY EXPORTED. They are in the same catagory as if
you found some Tagish Lake in your search in Canada and illegally carried it
out and sold it.You know its true. You dont have export permits and that you
have sold all of your customers illegal meteorites.
Likely you wont have the moroccan government coming after you with the H5s
but with the rare stuff like your lunar you just had better hope that
your customers dont get exposed to some future US government agreement with
the moroccans to return all illegal meteorites (Dont think that this is not a
possibility - the US government is quite willing to confiscate and return
illegally exported artifacts from certain latin american countries that they
have agreements with to do so).
But lets talk about the Lunar a little more. How happy is the person who
you bought it from? You had a little run in with the police last week in
Morocco didnt you? You never broke any law I guess as you didnt end up in jail
but your past dealings in morocco have gotten you some bad enemies in Morocco.
Any some will try to cause legal problems for you. I dont know if they
are justified or not but you seem to have had some bad business dealings and
when you were recently in morocco got some personal threats from people that
you bought meteorites from in the past didnt you farmer. You can bet that they
would cause you more trouble if they could. Your investors just had better
hope that nobody in morocco tips off the customs people that you illegally
export meteorites and get them all confiscated on you. I doubt that you have
money to pay all of your investors back. Just goes to show how you treat the
people that you deal with over there and how happy they are. Maybe let the
buyers of your Lunar know exactly how the moroccans like your handling
of that. Interestingly you have not attacked Bruno this past year.I guess that
you have finally realized that Bruno is not going to seriously try to cause
problems for you. He is just there to earn money like the rest of us. There
are enough meteorites for us all and most buyers are happy with that.
Apparantly you have more worries about that from past Moroccan business
partners than you do from Bruno.
If you want to keep this mud slingly up I can include even more details
about your lunar that I am sure that your investors would be interested in.
You have made some serious enemies in Morocco Farmer. And they talk. I know
what you have been up to. But I wont tell anybody myself. It would just seem
like I am just another bitching meteorite dealer who dont like competation so
this will be (Hopefully) my last email on this. I dont want to expose list
members to more of this crap. I think that what I will do instead is
subscribe Amuri (The guy that you bought the lunar from) to this meteorite
list. This list could include some nomads anyway. Let him tell the world what
he and other moroccans think of you. I dont know what Amouri would say to us
all about you but Vegas would give odds that it wouldent be
positive. Its not a vacant wasteland over there you know. Any more than
Canadas north is not a wasteland filled with uneducated glue
sniffing natives niave to the outside world. They even have internet over
there. Maybe I should also fully inform Amuri about the moroccan laws as it
applies to meteorites and how that Lunar that you bought from him (Like
everything else that you have from over there) was illegaly exported from
Morocco. That even includes your CR2. Anybody who buys any from you has an
illegal meteorite. I am sure that some people dont care about that. If I
offered some St Robert or Bruderheim that was recently found some people
would be willing to buy it from me. But others wouldent.But since it is such a
rare type of meteorite you should get your $50 asking price for your illegal
CR2 anyway - just as soon as I get all of my legally exported stuff
sold. You are still getting sales for your illegal NWA482 so I guess that
you dont care about minor details like what the law says. What is the NWA482
going for now anyway? I believe that $900 a gram was the last offering price
that I herd and there was few takers anymore. That price is likely to go down
again to. I certainly wouldent pay $900 for that stuff.
I have to go now. I wont have internet again for 3 days so I dont plan on
sending anymore emails to add to the Farmer Pre Tucson Freak show. List
members dont need this crap anyway.Most people are here to learn about
meteorite - not wither or not farmer is feeling depressed about his penis size
this week.
DEAN
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