"Now, inquiring minds want to know---are you speaking from expierence??"

Hi John,

As far as grunt work who hasn't at one time or another - In my case as a young chemist my first job involved major grunt-work exercising non-ideal gaseous equations of state for different chemical compounds in the upper atmosphere.

The grunt-work paid off though and was great fun and that nerdy stuff led to a successful project to formulate #5 for Channel, which then ...

... unexpectedly led to demonstrating the fine spray patterns as the young face of technical service when visiting the top fragrance companies; being introduced to a wild sales force and given a company charge card in the era that no one audited our expense reports as long as we left the clients happy.

Hope that satisfies the inquiry!

What's wrong with the world today is that no one wants to grunt anymore, but those that do get their hands dirty are frequently admirable achievers:

http://www.lindseypollak.com/archives/why-%E2%80%9Cgrunt-work%E2%80%9D-matters

Kindest wishes
Doug




--Original Message-----
From: John Lutzon <j...@hc.fdn.com>
To: MexicoDoug <mexicod...@aim.com>
Cc: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 8:48 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe


Hello Doug,

Just got in and had a good laugh.

Now, inquiring minds want to know---are you speaking from expierence??

John

----- Original Message -----
From: "MexicoDoug" <mexicod...@aim.com>
To: <bernd.pa...@paulinet.de>; <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>;
<countde...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe


Come on guys, I say hope the Grunt spacecraft grunts even louder ...
-
some nicer words in this terrible setback for the exploration of
space
whether by Russians, Chinese or the rest of us.

Please don't forget that the sexiest grunting comes from the best
examples
of the female animal of our species when in their prime; especially
hot
Russian women (I'm referring to the tennis players):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LawWhZcmV0


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/74044/maria_sharapova_in_sports_illustrated_swimsuit/


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/wimbledon/5578662/Wimbledon-2009-top-10-grunters-on-the-womens-tour.html


http://www.iol.co.za/sport/i-will-continue-to-grunt-maria-tells-moaners-1.559623

Kindest wishes
Doug




-----Original Message-----
From: Bernd V. Pauli <bernd.pa...@paulinet.de>
To: meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 3:52 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Little Hope For Stuck Phobos Grunt Probe


The Count wrote:

"Strange things can happen to your spacecraft"

Especially if the probe is called  * g r u n t *

(grunt = a short low sound an animal makes in its throat)

Sometimes "nomen est omen" ;-)

Cheers,

Bernd


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