Zagami has and even shorter terrestrial age and has been in ample supply for study for the last 50 years.

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From: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" <meteoritem...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:43 AM
To: "Shawn Alan" <photoph...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Meteorite Central" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit-Tanzrou Martian Fall. (Why no lunar falls? and freshest lunar?)

Hi Shawn and List,

It is true that science has access to dozens(!) of Martian meteorites,
but all of them have been sitting on Earth for thousands of years and
they have experienced alteration and oxidation during that long wait
for discovery.  This is the first Martian (or any planetary) that has
a terrestrial age measured in months.  That is exciting.  It is so
pristine and fresh, that scientists should be very keen to research
it.  Due to it's lack of oxidation and alteration, it is the next best
thing to sample recovery mission.  Imagine how much it would cost to
bring back a sizeable sample from Mars.  Mother Nature just saved
science billions of dollars.  :)

Best regards,

MikeG
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On 1/14/12, Shawn Alan <photoph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
MikeG & Listers

MikeG
you said

"I probably should have clarified - the 21st century. So basically the
last
~12 years. It's hard to find a fall (pun intended) in the last
12 years that
is more important (overall) than this Martian. In
terms of scientific value,
Tagish Lake is probably high on the list of
the most important in the 21st
century."

I would have to agree on Tagish Lake its very important and I would say more important then TATA in regards of scientists have no clue which parent body
it came from, and the presolar grains it has and the large amount of
nanodiamonds found within the meteorite. With the TATA meteorite, this makes about 79 classified meteorite from Mars. In ratio to parent body, thats alot of meteorite from one location in space considered science has no clue where Tagish Lakes parent body is. So in repect to science, TATA is just another
Mars meteorite, another one to add to the growing list of Martianites :)

On the other hand, ALMAHATA SITTA is by far the most signficate fall in the
last 12 years

Shawn Alan
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Hi Count and List,

I probably should have clarified -
the 21st century. So basically the
last ~12 years. It's hard to find a fall
(pun intended) in the last
12 years that is more important (overall) than
this Martian. In
terms of scientific value, Tagish Lake is probably high on
the list of
the most important in the 21st century.

If NonCom
approves it as a fall and if a lot of good research comes
out of this
meteorite, then it's
surely one of the most interesting
falls of the 50
years.

Let's all cross our fingers and hope that MetSoc approves this as
a
named fall and that they approve it quickly once they have the data
required to do so. :)

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 1/12/12,
Count Deiro <countdeiro at
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I only know that there are papers published making the
argument that certain

SNC's and Alan Hills 84001 show
evidence of fossilized life forms. There are

other
scientists who dispute this. Nakhla has the more compelling artifacts

and is used more often to prove the hypothesis.



Regards,



Count Deiro

IMCA 3536





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Sent: Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM

To: Count Deiro <countdeiro at
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
Tata-Foumzgit Martian
Fall. The most

significant fall of
this century?



If life has been
confirmed on Mars, wouldn't the President have called a

press conference?



Phil Whitmer

Joshua Tree Earth
& Space Museum

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To: "Galactic Stone &
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Sent: Thursday, January 12,
2012 4:41 PM

Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit
Martian Fall. The most

significant fall of this century?





Michael has asked:



Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian
"Tata" fall is the most

significant meteorite
fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the

last
50+ years?



Not even
close, Mike if by century, you were referring to falls observed

through the 1900's. Take Nakhla for example.
Witnessed fall. Immediate

collection by experts and
responsible for stirring the fuel under that

most
famous of all Martian arguments....is there is, or is there was

..life on Mars. Chock full of fossilized
nanobacteria, biomorphs and

whatever else they found
last month that is being written up at this

writing.



Best regards,



Count Deiro

IMCA 3536





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Subject:
[meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most

significant

fall
of this century?



Hi List,



Would it be safe to say, that the new Martian
"Tata" fall is the most

significant meteorite
fall of the 21st century, and perhaps of the

last
50+ years?



All
things considered, this has the makings of a very significant

event for
science. This is the most pristine
sample of Mars to arrive

in labs for a long time,
if ever. Even the freshest NWA finds cannot

compare to fresh stones collected less than a
year after the fall.

The unbroken stones and
larger fragments will supply science with

unaltered, unoxidixed material for research. This
new Martian is

going to be widely studied, so I
hope everyone is getting their

microprobes warmed
up in anticipation.



Word has it that institutions and museums have
been allocated a

sizeable amount of material in
terms of trades and donations, so there

appears
to be plenty of it available for study. It is safe to say

that this new meteorite
(whatever the official
name turns out to be)

will appear in a lot of
papers and journals over time.



For science, this is the next best thing to a
manned sample-return

mission. For collectors this
is best thing since sliced bread. The

only thing
that could have made this fall better, from a collector's

standpoint, is if a stone had bounced off a
Bedouin tent and struck a

camel in the hump. But,
you can't have your cake and eat it too. ;)



So, what is the going consensus on the details of
this fall?



Nickname - Tata or Foumzgit (mostly "Tata")



TKW - several
kilograms, probably less than 10kg. Much of this is in

the form of large whole stones and large broken
stones and that

material has been absorbed into
collections and is not likely to

return to the
market. Ballpark figure of material to be available

eventually on the collector market is probably "a
few kilos" (2-3kg?)



Date of fall - July of 2011 (certain), actual
date - July 25, 2011?

Other reports say earlier
in July (13-15?)



Time of fall - day or night? (night?)



Type -
Shergottite, shocked, silver-grey matrix with black shock

veins. Glossy fresh black fusion crust.



Misc - witness
reports include an audible explosion and popping sounds.



Does all of that
sound about right?





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