So.. are you saying The IMCA only publicly denounce a persons actions if the person is NOT a memeber of the IMCA. Otherwise they hide the shameful actions of their members?
YOU yourself publicly slammed me some time ago while I was a member and it got reactions from other members, some who offered to buy the entire board the Roberts rule of order manual which you guys turned down... its a shame you did, you may have learned something. I have learned from my mistakes, you obviously have not. Jason has openly admitted to selling this without proper export permits... please tell me about your email to me saying the reason I was kicked out was due to me importing buzzard coulee without a permit? I still have the emails and will share to ANYONE who wants to see... the Official reason I am not longer a member per your board was due to Buzzard Coulee import while the permits where still in process (which I ended up getting!) tell me I am wrong and I will post the email publicly!!!!! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites ________________________________ From: Anne Black <impact...@aol.com> To: jasonu...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Hello Jason, Greg, and all, 2 very important facts to remember at all times: - IMCA Board Members are not required to sit in front of their computers 24/7, just in case someone has a question or a problem. We are allowed to have a life. - Anything the IMCA Board decides to say or do will be said or done in PRIVATE. And only in Private. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com Vice-President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc -----Original Message----- From: jason utas <jasonu...@gmail.com> To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Sat, Jul 14, 2012 5:13 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit Ditto Michael. Your personal beef with me and the IMCA for booting you is sad, but you screwed up in a large way, multiple times. Way to brush off the topic of unreturned museum donations yet again. Almahata Sitta was issued an export permit by the University of Khartoum. Whether that is legal in the eyes of the government there is open to debate. Either way, the pot's calling the kettle black. These meteorites were not stolen. As you say, case closed. Jason On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Greg Catterton <star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am not attacking you by any means. Not like your blacklist website you have. I am simply pointing out the IMCA has FAILED to police its own members and allow them to sell illegal meteorites! I got my Almahatta Sitta from Anne Black, IMCA VP... Talk to her about the legal issues of it as she sold it to me. > My NWAs are not from Algeria FYI... Please.... lets name some names and make it clear that there is ALOT of illegal meteorites being sold by IMCA members and the group has failed to clean house for the violations of the code of ethics they swear by so much! > > Again, this is not about me, this is about YOU and other IMCA members breaking the IMCAs rules and ethics codes and the lack of enforcement the IMCA is showing. Lets be honest, you crucify me for a failed museum I tried to open while YOU ARE SELLING STOLEN METEORITES!!!!!! > > > > Greg Catterton > www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com > On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites > On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jason utas <jasonu...@gmail.com> > To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit > > Greg, > Like your NWA's (maybe from Algeria), Camel Donga (no export permit) > and Almahata Sitta (possibly legal at best) on ebay -- to say nothing > of everyone's Sulagiri and most of the Canyon Diablo on the market > today? How about those Sikhote's you're offering? Exported before > Russia cracked down on exports, I take it? Please. > > I can name several people who donated to your museum who you still > haven't refunded. > > There's a difference between cheating people and offering a new > meteorite for sale, but I wouldn't expect you to see the difference. > > Keep attacking me, and me alone. We all know what's going on here. > > Jason > > On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Greg Catterton > <star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> 1. You know more then well I was told it was Mifflin. I FULLY REFUNDED EVERYONE. Case closed. YOU can "shove off" I had several still not return material to me even though they were refunded..., including Mike Cottingham, and John Helm. >> >> 2. I spent several thousand of my money to try to open the museum. It failed. What can I say? I tried... Again, you can "shove off" >> 3. I have returned EVERYTHING donated minus one person who I have talked to about it. YOU did nothing yet run your mouth... again, "shove off... >> >> 4. WHAT I DID/DO DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT THAT YOU SELLING ILLEGALLY EXPORTED MATERIAL AND KNOW AS MUCH!!! I didnt know about the mifflin, you know the laws about this, and choose to ignore it! >> >> your comments are pathetic. YOU are breaking international laws, and are an IMCA member to boot... Where is the IMCA right now when you are selling ILLEGALLY EXPORTED METEORITES? What are they going to do with you breaking numerous IMCA rules? ANYONE from the IMCA care to comment or will they remain quite as that usually do when one of the good ol boys break the rules? >> >> >> >> >> Greg Catterton >> www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com >> On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites >> On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: jason utas <jasonu...@gmail.com> >> To: Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >> Cc: >> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit >> >> Hello Greg, >> The gall you must have to pass on thousands of dollars of fake >> material, take donations for a good cause, flake on the cause (but >> keep many of the donations) and then rag on me for selling *accurately >> described material*...just shove off. You've done more harm to this >> community on your own than most others have been able to manage in the >> past fifteen years. >> Jason >> >> >> >> I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time. >> >> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM, >> <wanderings...@wanderingstarmeteorites.com> wrote: >>> >>> Its Commonly known meteorites from India are illegal without export >>> permits, but yet Suligiri and now Katol is offered by many IMCA members >>> for sale. Guess the meteorite police, IMCA member and seller of this >>> (Katol) Jason Utas needs to add himself to his blacklist for selling >>> illegal meteorites! Question is, where is the IMCA to take action >>> against jason for illegally exporting or receiving these for sale? >>> >>> Greg C, >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Katol India meteorite - Forbidden Fruit >>> From: Me Teor <m3t30r1t3...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Sat, July 14, 2012 11:39 am >>> To: Shawn Alan <photoph...@yahoo.com> >>> Cc: Meteorite Central <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> >>> >>> Dear Shawn >>> You are absolutely correct. It is illegal to collect meteorites in >>> India. And meteorites are government property. The authority for this is >>> the Geological Survey of India. And as far as I know, they never trade >>> or deal with any individuals or private institutions. There cannot be >>> any export papers as export is banned. >>> >>> Although I wonder how having a export paper or certificate helps ? >>> >>> If a specimen is up for sale, it is definitely out of the country and >>> has been exported. >>> >>> By the way does anyone have a analysis report on this new find ? >>> >>> M.E. >>> >>> On 14-Jul-2012, at 3:32 AM, Shawn Alan <photoph...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Listers, >>>> >>>>> From my understanding, meteorites that fell or are found after 1885 in India would be forwarded to the Government Geological Museum which would take over possession of the meteorite? If so, how is Katol exempt from this, or was Katol sold by the Museum? For those who have gotten some of this meteorite fall, will their meteorites come with export papers like how Canadian falls are handled? >>>> >>>> Shawn Alan >>>> IMCA 1633 >>>> eBay store >>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? >>>> http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at >>> http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
