Jim & all, Commercial users always had to have permits. Permits always took their time. This is not new Rockhounders were always prohibited from commercial endeavors. This is not new. Meteorite hunters were lumped in with rockhounders until now. The only real change that I can see is the change in poundage limits---a major change for sure, but how many of us have had years where the 10 pound limit would've been a problem? It can happen, but quite rarely. I have recovered hundreds of meteorite (fragments) in Nevada, but nowhere near 10 pounds per year. Probably the main point of all this is that we are now under scrutiny and attracting explicit personalized regulation where before we were pretty much under the radar. However, the "new" explicit meteorite regulations are mostly not new, but rather, a formal restatement of long-standing policies governing rockhounding on BLM-managed lands.
Norm ----- Original Message ---- From: Jim Wooddell <jimwoodd...@gmail.com> To: Meteorite List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> Sent: Mon, October 1, 2012 4:38:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New BLM regs: Tempest in a teacup? Hello Norm, I beleive that was 25 pounds a day, now 10 pounds a year. Science and Commerical users now require permits. Casual hunters not allowed to sell. Hmmm. Permit processes can take 185 days. I'd say that's significant. Jim On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Count Deiro <countde...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Sorry Norm. Your take on the BLM being some kind of begnign overseer who will >look the other way couldn't be farther from the truth. Just wait till the next >highly publicized fall amd someone admits to picking up something significant >from public land. The BLM will be all over him/her like white on a golf ball. >What! No permit? Didn't know this land was restricted? Gimme that! Here! Take >this citation! > > Guido > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Norm Lehrman <nlehr...@nvbell.net> >>Sent: Sep 30, 2012 8:17 PM >>To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>Subject: [meteorite-list] New BLM regs: Tempest in a teacup? >> >>All, >> >>I have been following this thread with great confusion, and maybe there IS >>something I don't understand. Meteorite collecting has previously fallen under >>the general rules of rockhounding, and the new changes merely formalize a >>specific policy that is no great change from the past rules. I am quite sure I >>will be hugey chastised for my ignorance. Please correct me if I missed >>something. >> >>The previous rules said 25 pounds and/or one rock. Now it's 10 pounds and no >>provision for the big one with respect to meteorites. How often will that >>actually afect us? Almost never. The use of motorized vehicles off marked >>roads is also a general policy, not just for us. Metal detectors are >explicitly >>allowed. Surely a magnet on a stick is also still fine. >> >>Commercial exploitation of BLM ground is subject to a long standing guideline. >>Find a monster? It is only fair that the land-owner (all Americans) should get >>some benefit. This is no change. If you want to harvest building stones or >>ornamental boulders, you pay a fee. We will too. No real change. >> >>I see no great disaster here. Just a formalization of a specific policy, >thanks >>(?) to our own loud self-promotion in its various forms. Of course they had >to >>get explicit. It is not much more than a clear, specific, restatement of the >>rules we were all subject to before now. Or did no one understand this? Yes, >>they may choose to make their point by prosecuting someone, but I will be >amazed >>if this involves changes in the law. Just enforcement of those already extant. >>At worst with fairly minor changes. >> >>Have at it. I am waiting to be reprimanded for my folly. What am I missing? >> >>Best, >>Norm (www.tektitesource.com) >>______________________________________________ >> >>Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html >>Meteorite-list mailing list >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at >http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Jim Wooddell jimwoodd...@gmail.com 928-247-2675 ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list