Yeah, Adam, we soon may be eating twinkie knock offs, made in Mexico.  What a 
shame.
  The same type of intrusion will most likely see it's way into the meteorite 
community.  This too, will be a shame.  I'm not a hunter, but, what hurts you 
hunters, hurts me as a collector.
  The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.  I'd say that's a pretty 
solid axiom.

  Greg L.


> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:09:21 -0800
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's 
> Mill, Beni Yacoub, Others?
> 
> Yes, social media. Pretty soon, you will be rated on your online social 
> profile if Bill Gates gets has his way. I can see it now, insurance companies 
> refusing to insure due to a non-existent or poor social profile. Even the 
> founder of Facebook refused to open an account until recently knowing this 
> information is shared for profit, offering user demographics and interests to 
> companies. Nowadays, Information equals money. Even your cell phone imbeds 
> GPS coordinates into your images that can and will be used against you if the 
> time arises. I recently rented a car with Onstar on-board and had to sign a 
> contract stating that I would not take the 4-wheel drive vehicle off-road and 
> that they would know if I did. What purpose does a rental 4-wheel drive Jeep 
> Wrangler serve if it cannot be taken into the dirt? 
> 
> 
> Recently, a computer in a car was used in court to convict a driver of 
> manslaughter. Maybe not a bad thing if the person were guilty but taking the 
> word of a computer over the testimony of human beings is something else. I 
> know this sounds like paranoia on my part but I assure you that it is all 
> true.
> 
> Too much information can be a bad thing thus the meaning of going 
> underground. At least in Australia, the museums actually issue export 
> permits. Lets see if anybody gets a U.S. meteorite collecting permit for 
> commercial purposes. My belief is that it will never happen!
> 
> I ponder all of this as I may be eating the last Hostess Twinkie ever 
> produced after 82 years of being in business! The Battle Mountain fall may be 
> remembered as the last event on U.S. public land where hunters could openly 
> share.
> 
> 
> Happy Hunting Fellow Comrades,
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Farmer <[email protected]>
> To: Adam Hupe <[email protected]>
> Cc: Adam <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's 
> Mill, Beni Yacoub, Others?
> 
> Actually plenty is going on behind the scenes. The lack of interest on the 
> list with new falls has finally driven most of us working actively on such 
> new falls to no longer bother with sharing much. 
> Sadly many of the people here actually aren't interested in actual 
> meteorites, but other things. It takes time to compose emails, share 
> information, and write about these adventures and to share with a thousand 
> people who don't actually care, is a waste of that time. 
> I know many of the people working these falls now, though for the last two I 
> have not had time to go and with Novato, I decided to pass on that fall since 
> the scientific response was so poorly handled and the overwhelming chaotic 
> "treasure hunt" mentality of the locals make it a hunt I did not want to 
> participate in.
> 
> Over the years I have seen the responses on here drop to nothing other than 
> attacks after a fall, so I think that mostly the reason you don't see many 
> hunters bothering with it. Most information has gone the Facebook route.
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Nov 18, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Adam Hupe <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > The U.S. market is in the process of going underground due to new 
> > restrictions and monitoring. We saw the same thing happen in Australia 
> > which has less restrictive laws than the U.S. 
> > 
> > I have always stated that too much price hype in the media equals 
> > governmental interest. Interest equals the need to control.
> > 
> > Happy Hunting,
> > 
> > Adam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MikeG <[email protected]>
> > To: Meteorite List <[email protected]>
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:13 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill, 
> > Beni Yacoub, Others?
> > 
> > We've had lots of new falls this year, and especially over the last
> > couple of months. Yet, we are hearing very little chatter. What
> > gives?
> > 
> > Any new Novato or Addison finds? Any reports?
> > 
> > What about some of the older falls, like Battle Mountain and Sutter's
> > Mill? Are any new finds being made from those strewnfields?
> > 
> > The Met-List seems strangely quiet, given the amount of space rocks we
> > are being peppered with.
> > 
> > Best regards and happy huntings,
> > 
> > MikeG
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