Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers floating 
around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure. Anyway the free 
market will work, price too high, no sales. Black beauty was sold abs marketed 
for $20k gram.


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am not calling it boring.  I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram 
> exciting.  The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more 
> than 10 times higher than Pultusk!  In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 
> a gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
> 
> Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
> I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material. 
> Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying 
> fakes on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary 
> meteorite, it isn't!
> Call it anything you want, a nuclear-bomb blast magnitude common chondrite on 
> the news 24/7 for last 5 days, "Gimme Gimme gimme"!
> Michael Farmer
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 19, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting.  Some prefer falls and 
>> some prefer rare types.  I am saying that historically, there is way more 
>> bang for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary 
>> fall.  The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial offering 
>> price whereas the last several chondrite falls only maintains about 10-20% 
>> of their initial offer price.  For the most part, unless some dealer becomes 
>> desperate and charges way too much on his credit card, Planetary finds have 
>> the best record for maintaining price in the long run.
>> 
>> With over a dozen falls a year, Ordinary Chondrite falls are literately a 
>> dime a dozen these days, excuse the pun.  You can purchase very old 
>> witnessed falls at a bargain by comparison to more recent falls with asking 
>> prices much higher.  I would prefer very old falls for investment purposes. 
>> 
>> I like planetary pieces above all else and to me, they will always be king.
>> 
>> Adam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
>> To: Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> 
>> Cc: Adam <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
>> 
>> Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the 
>> world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of 
>> stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already 
>> dropping and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall has 
>> excited the world, my sales are surging because of interest. 
>> I will take a bet with you, this Russian meteorite will fill every 
>> collection in the world and Black beauty will be owned by very few people.
>> I know where I am going to put my money.
>> 
>> Michael Farmer
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary 
>>> Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with 
>>> thousands of pieces on the market..  A witnessed fall may very well lose 
>>> 90% of its value within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off.  
>>> The real story is in the event and once the limited amount of collectors 
>>> get their hands on some, the demand drops off quickly.  On the other hand, 
>>> the way overpriced Martian meteorite will be appreciated much longer unless 
>>> pairings and competition drag the price down.
>>> 
>>> I always wait at least six months before investing in either one so that I 
>>> am am not paying 4 to 10 times its settled value.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>     
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Matt Morgan <m...@mhmeteorites.com>
>>> To: Mark Ford <mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk>; 
>>> "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" <Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Cc: 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick one)
>>> 
>>> I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
>>> 
>>> Mark Ford <mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating!  :)
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
>>>> Martian..
>>>> 
>>>> lol
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mendy
>>>> Ouzillou
>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 15:57
>>>> To: Michael Farmer; Matt Morgan
>>>> Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
>>>> one)
>>>> 
>>>> Agreed, they are both cool.
>>>> 
>>>> So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would
>>>> ignore the rules and get both. 
>>>> 
>>>> Mendy Ouzillou
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Michael Farmer <m...@meteoriteguy.com>
>>>>> To: Matt Morgan <m...@mhmeteorites.com>
>>>>> Cc: "Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
>>>>> <Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:35 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only
>>>> pick
>>>>> one)
>>>>> 
>>>>> But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively
>>>> cheap, I am sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will
>>>> likely be low. For $500 people will be able to buy one or many stones.
>>>> $500 in black beauty gets you a speck hardly identifiable as a
>>>> meteorite.
>>>>> Both are very interesting meteorites, scientifically the Mars is more
>>>> interesting but dynamically the Russian fall is history-book material.
>>>>> No comparison in my opinion:)
>>>>> I'll be in Russia very soon, so get your pennies counted:) Michael 
>>>>> Farmer
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Matt Morgan <m...@mhmeteorites.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own
>>>> rights. Black Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall
>>>> is far from ordinary. We should see this as an opportunity (if there is
>>>> the opportunity to own the Russian fall) and them both to our
>>>> collections. 
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark Ford <mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at 
>>>>>>> the moment -  give me 'the Russian blonde'!  :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>> Sent: 19 February 2013 13:14
>>>>>>> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>>>>>> Cc: Don Merchant
>>>>>>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Wish list Meteorite choice (can only pick
>>>>>>> one)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of
>>>> meteorites/asteroids! 
>>>>>>> So here goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small 
>>>>>>> fragment for your collection what would it be. Here are the
>>>> choices:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034 or A fragment of the recent
>>>> 
>>>>>>> and most historic event of the Russian meteorite in Chebarkul.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lets just say for ships and giggles that if you pick one you can 
>>>>>>> never have the other!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>> Don Merchant
>>>>>>> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders 
>>>>>>> www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960
>>>>>>> 
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