The designations of petrologic type is based on texture (pristine or recrystallized) and degree of mineralogical equilibration. Those that appear most recrystallized have rather uniform mineral compositions indicative of a high degree of annealing or thermal metamorphism. Although other properties also vary with petrologic type (e.g., the concentration of some volatile elements), those other properties are not the main classificatory criteria. The petrologic types are the phenomenon that requires us to think of a heat source. In the past, some maintained that chondrites accreted hot from the nebula and were "autometamorphosed." Few believe that these days. As I said before, most researchers attribute the apparent annealing to the decay of 26-Al, which was undoubtedly present. My papers over the past 20 years have provided evidence that impact-heating was a major heat source for chondi\ritic meteorites. Both mechanisms may have been active. As far as achondrites are concerned, their designation is based on having a chondrule-free, usually igneous, texture. They appear to have formed from a melt. The particular isotopic compositions of different achondrite groups (e.g., HEDs, aubrites, angrites) are not important for distinguishing chondrites from achondrites. But we are again faced with the question of what heat source or sources caused achondrites to melt. Most researchers would maintain that it was mainly 26-Al.

Alan Rubin
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Dr. Rubin,

If I read your response carefully, I believe you are saying that the petrologic state should not depend on the type of metamorphic process which makes sense. Seems to me that the the isotopic analysis should be used to identify chondritic material from achondritic material.


Mendy Ouzillou


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What thoughts about Taffessasset in this regard? Anyone wish to chime in?
Richard M


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 Most classifiers don't use the type-7 designation because many of the
chondrites that have been called type-7 seem to be impact-melt breccias. Most researchers believe that thermal metamorphism probably caused by asteroidal heating engendered by the decvay of short-lived radionuclides like 26-Al heated chondrites from type 3 to 4 to 5 to 6. If shock was responsible for causing a rock to be called type 7, then it seemed more prudent to just call it shocked and not use the type-7 designation. Most researchers believe that the primitive achondrites were also partly (or completely) melted by heating caused by the
decay of 26-Al. I am not of these camps; it seems to me that heating of
chondrites from type 3 to type 6 also results from impact heating and that the primitive achondrites formed in an analogous way, but that is another story.
 Alan


 Alan Rubin
 Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics
 University of California
 3845 Slichter Hall
 603 Charles Young Dr. E
 Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567
 phone: 310-825-3202
 e-mail: aeru...@ucla.edu
 website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html


 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Scherff"
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 To: "'Adam'" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
 Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 3:14 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Type 7 chondrites



 Hi,

 Is there any consensus about petrologic type 7 chondrites? Are they
better
 classified as Primitive Achondrites? If type 7 is different from
primitive
 achondtites what is the line between them?

 Thanks,

 Peter Scherff

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