oops almost forgot! If the frontal pressure exceeds tensile strength it causes 
the entire object to vaporise. meaning there would be nothing less than dust 
left of the meteorite. and nothing left to make a hole in the ice.
Cheers 
Steve

--- On Fri, 3/22/13, Steve Dunklee <steve.dunk...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Steve Dunklee <steve.dunk...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Scientists Find Crater inMeteorite-Hit 
> Lake
> To: "Murray Paulson" <murray.paul...@gmail.com>, "Bernd V. Pauli" 
> <bernd.pa...@paulinet.de>, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, "Matthias 
> Bärmann" <majbaerm...@web.de>
> Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 10:27 AM
> Duh? As I have been saying all along
> the impact from behind of a second object caused the
> detonation and also deflected the main mass causing it to
> fall 10 meters or 16.5 degrees away from its expected
> trajectory. Meteorites unless deflected will land falling
> nearly perpendicular to the earths surface. The 1.9 ton main
> mass of Jilin made a hole in the ground perpendicular to the
> earths surface. The second object of Cherbukul  also
> split the vapor trail as it caught up to and impacted the
> main mass at mach7
> 
> Cheers
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 3/22/13, Matthias Bärmann <majbaerm...@web.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Matthias Bärmann <majbaerm...@web.de>
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Scientists Find
> Crater inMeteorite-Hit Lake
> > To: "Murray Paulson" <murray.paul...@gmail.com>,
> "Bernd V. Pauli" <bernd.pa...@paulinet.de>,
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Date: Friday, March 22, 2013, 8:36 AM
> > 
> > Murray, the lake is about 15 meters deep, with a thick
> layer
> > of mud on the ground.
> > 
> > Dirk: happy birthday, very best wishes to Tokyo :-)
> > 
> > Best
> > Matthias
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Paulson"
> <murray.paul...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Bernd V. Pauli" <bernd.pa...@paulinet.de>;
> > <Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Scientists Find
> Crater
> > inMeteorite-Hit Lake
> > 
> > 
> > Hi:
> > 
> > Do we know how deep this lake is? 10 meters may or may
> not
> > be much of
> > an issue. A second thing is the possibility that the
> ice
> > shifted since
> > the impact.
> > 
> > Murray
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Bernd V. Pauli <bernd.pa...@paulinet.de>
> > wrote:
> > > "Popov said the crater is not located directly
> beneath
> > the
> > >  hole in the ice, but is some 10 meters to one
> > side of it."
> > > 
> > > => the bolide's flight path had a slope of
> 16½°
> > [?!]
> > > 
> > > Cheers, Bernd
> > > 
> > > 
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