Dear List,
Honestly I'm not sure why I'm writing this response since none of my emails 
ever get through to the list, but anyhow, concerning this topic:  

I collect many things, meteorites, antique swords, rare books, antiques, and 
from the collector's perspective they all have something in common:  unless you 
are an expert you run the risk of being taken advantage of. 
Research only gets you so far.  Buying from respected dealers is a good move 
but even that does not guarantee authenticity as respected dealers cannot 
always claim to be experts in their fields.  

At the risk of offending, I must also include that most any merchant of any 
collectible item will often misrepresent something just enough to make it more 
appealing than it really is, but not so much that they are being dishonest.  I 
never bought a collectible item that wasn't put on a pedestal and spoken well 
about in some way.

Hope you are all having a productive week.  
Cheers,
John




On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:17 AM, almi...@localnet.com wrote:

> Hi Mendy and all,
> 
> Your a conscientious collector and care about the fraud going on with eBay 
> and elsewhere. However despite people pointing out that certain people are 
> frauds, there are well known dealers who continue to sell, trade and be 
> friends with those who have misrepresented material to the community in the 
> past.
> 
> It is this type of association that bothers me. Why would you continue to 
> able someone who has been caught? Why can they sell or buy at all from any 
> dealers, collectors and so on? Money does funny things to people. However if 
> this gets out of hand (and I think it already has) it could bring down the 
> whole collecting/selling community.
> 
> As pointed out earlier, buy from well known dealers. Do research and find out 
> who has a good standing reputation. You can search the meteorite list 
> archives in order to find out problems of the past, and keep tabs on future 
> problems.
> 
> --AL Mitterling
> Mitterling Meteorites
> (Our 25th year in dealing just Meteorites)
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Mendy Ouzillou <ouzil...@yahoo.com>:
> 
>> To everyone that responded and filed a complaint or sent the seller an email 
>> - Thank you.
>> 
>> We often refer to ourselves as being a "meteorite community" and it is 
>> really nice to see us act like one when needed. I will be sending these 
>> types of requests more often. I am not turning into the meteorite police (I 
>> do not have the time or patience for that) as there are far to many cases of 
>> fraud for me to report or to expect you to follow suit. I and anyone else 
>> who would like to join, will only be picking on the worst offenders or in 
>> cases where a bid has been made and a fraudulent sale is imminent.
>> 
>> The idea is not to specifically protect members of this community, but to 
>> keep the fraudulent listings or sellers from tainting our communal 
>> reputation and the (a)vocation we all enjoy. The advice to "buy only from 
>> trusted sellers" is good, but does not help the new collectors who do not 
>> know better. Quixotic pursuit? Maybe, but I want to try to protect new 
>> collectors who may eventually join the ranks of my fellow "met-heads".
>> 
>> There is safety in numbers, so I hope that eventually, more people will 
>> participate in protecting our mutual interests.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 
>> Mendy (Don Quixote) Ouzillou
>> IMCA 8395
> 
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