Amen to that, John!
Ed D
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From: "John Lutzon" <j...@lutzon.com>
To: "Ed Deckert" <edeck...@triad.rr.com>
Cc: <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From
AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...
I agree Ed, but may I add the following: ?
All sales and discussions of Meteorites is highly encouraged.
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From: "Ed Deckert via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "Sterling K. Webb" <sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net>; "'Galactic Stone &
Ironworks'" <meteoritem...@gmail.com>;
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From
AccreditedScientificor Educational Institutions...
Sales of all sentences, commas, periods, semi-colons and all other
punctuation marks are hereby suspended until further notice.
Ed D
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From: "Sterling K. Webb via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "'Galactic Stone & Ironworks'" <meteoritem...@gmail.com>;
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited
Scientificor Educational Institutions...
You are severely underpricing your
punctuation. Really good comma's
are worth at least two bucks a pair. A
proper semi-colon should be $1.00 to
$1.50. You should work up a detailed
price list...
Sterling Webb
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On
Behalf Of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 1:02 PM
To: Peter Richards
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Michael Farmer
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Accepting Inquiries From Accredited
Scientific
or Educational Institutions...
I was trying to be genuinely helpful. And now I am reminded why I do not
reply to these kind of inquiries. The messenger always gets shot.
I tried in good faith to be helpful to you and you start launching
accusations. The rest of your replies are too incomprehensible or
paranoid
to warrant a reply.
This is my last reply on this matter. Any further replies will cost you
$20
per sentence with punctuation being an extra .25 cents per period or
comma.
Payment in advance only.
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On 6/7/15, Peter Richards <pedricha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Mike, I think your approach is great for novices. I know that not only
you but many professional meteoricists have your "hardline", barely
logical, if so, preconceived, "paper form" reply, when, of course, it
is an odd inheritor of the mantle of people who once said meteorites
did not even exist, which I believe Geoff Notkin has reported included
the heads of the Catholic church at one point historically. I get that
scientists, like you seem to me to, might prefer to discredit the
possibility than be honest, yet, again, it is what it is. My previous
statements are what they are. You can call them what you want, at the
behest of yourself or your friends or whoever motivates you to do what
you do. Of course, oddly enough, you seemingly disingenuous people are
leaning into this, and seem prepared to throw your all at me in such a
muckracking match, in lieu of the professionals. Really, I have some
emails from them, so it is the same. You all are what you are, the
rock is what it is (as previously described), and I am what I am, and
maybe I should have not been provoked by your message, and ignored it,
but, I have already written this and the "send" button is in sight, so
do not fight. I know how great you all are. I have explained what you
are doing. I don't know why. It does protect your financial interests,
and my writing the truth, and not being cowed by past "infidelities"
is my attempt to protect my own.
cordially,
Peter
P.S. There are no granite meteorites recognized/officially-known and
would it not be bizarre if some people had a bias towards wanting it
to stay that way?
On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks
<meteoritem...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Peter,
It's hard to tell from the photos, but I do not see any outward signs
that would suggest these rocks might be meteorites. I do not see any
fusion crust, and what I do see is probably desert varnish. Desert
varnish forms on all rocks, not just meteorites.
Have you done a streak test or specific gravity test? These are both
low-tech tests that anybody can use to narrow down the range of
possibilities. If the rocks fails the streak test, it's not a
meteorite. If the rock has a specific gravity that falls outside the
range for stony meteorites, then it's not a meteorite.
You will find that most "accredited" institutions that work with
meteorites do not accept unsolicited samples because of the sheer
volume of rocks clogging the system waiting for analysis.
My advice is to use the streak and specific gravity tests to help
rule in/out the possibility of the stones being meteoritic or
terrestrial.
If the rocks pass these tests, then try cutting a window into one of
them and see if there are any chondrules or metal flecks.
Best regards,
MikeG
PS - there are no granite meteorites, so if the rock is "granite"
then it is not a meteorite.
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On 6/7/15, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
Hello Michael, no, but I will pass the Actlabs information on to any
representatives of accredited institutions who inquire. The stone is
a granite, and the photos may not tell the story of the crust
glaringly, but it is apparently what is there, for those of us (me
only right
now) who have the privilege of holding the stone. Thank you for the
"bump" anyway, although, of course, I am wondering what your
intentions were. Anyway, again, you use official scale cubes, and
these animal sculptures are all I have right now, but I understand
that it is less than fully ideal, and, again, this is not a
commercial sale, so to Mr. Farmer's defence, he is not lowering the
price for some associate of his to buy. Yes, I am a real person and
an American citizen, and the rock is as it was described, and I am
sorry that some people want to tell me it is what sort of terrestrial
rock by chance?
God knows. Keep looking if interested, and I will try to improve the
photos, but there is perhaps adequate visual information already.
regards,
Peter
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Michael Farmer
<m...@meteoriteguy.com>
wrote:
What kind of Nigerian scam attempt is this email? Trying to sell
garbage trinkets?
A,asking what makes it on the list these days.
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:48 PM, Peter Richards via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
To whom it may concern, I am offering this link, for the benefit
of representatives of accredited educational and scientific
institutions, displaying a stone which an Actlabs (of Lancaster,
Ontario) report has identified to me as a granite, which, is
almost definitely meteoritic, which I say due to the distinct
coating, and its shape, given that I have not shaped or coated
this stone and that these traits appear in no way artificial. I
can only guess what value to anyone denying that this could be a
meteorite is, but I will have to preclude such proclamations by
reminding people that, unless I have truly missed something, there
is less evidence to support such a claim than there is to support my
above-made claim.
Here is a link to a photo album, please see first photo
(sculptures are for scale reference, btw):
http://www.ipernity.com/doc/312101/album/793480
I am gauging interest alone here, I do not suppose this counts as
an ad, for the purposes are less than commercial although I, of
course, would like to determine if it is legal for any grants, or
such things, to be given by any willing recipients of any material
I make available, to me, as a token of gratitude, to compensate
for my exertions while acquiring this, and to help me better
conserve what I have collected, in case there is indeed scientific
value belonging to this collection of mine, and, it is ultimately
up to Art whether or not this counts as an advertisement technically
speaking.
Promptness will be much appreciated and rewarded where possible.
Once more, this is for accredited educational or scientific
institutions. I will hear of interest from outside the U.S., but
the state department's approval will be needed before anything is
provided to such institutions, as according to law.
Thank you and kindest regards to all, Peter E. D. Richards
currently of Chicago, IL
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